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This is a discussion on WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! within the Success Stories - Homeowners Who Fought Back & Won forums, part of the Stop Foreclosure and Tell Us Your Story category; Hi, after reading for weeks I decide to post. Thank you for any help. I have a 9.125% ARM with ...
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| WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! Hi, after reading for weeks I decide to post. Thank you for any help. I have a 9.125% ARM with WaMu( loan sold to Deutsche bank) and it resets in July 08. I did a stated loan (08-06) with income verification by sending in my bank statements. (Loan balance 580k and home currently valued approx. 720k I live in Bellevue WA. no 2nd. credit scores bad maybe 630-650 not sure and never late on my mortgage) It has been very difficult to make my 5200 mortgage payment and to pay other bills. I have also exhausted my savings. My thought was this recent decline in rates my ARM will adjust down and I can have some breathing room. Well, I was shocked when I pulled out my loan doc's to see my loan will never go down below my initial rate of 9.125%. I followed the advice of this wonderful website and sent 3 certified letters to WaMu requesting a QWR and stated my financial hardship and requested a loan modification. So here is my question. WaMu wants a hardship letter and 6 months financials. Is this the best way to have Wamu/Deutche bank modify my loan?.... Discuss in my hardship letter the fact I am self employed in the financial services industry and buisiness is dramatically down, mention 3 kids at home, my wife is working odd jobs ,ect ect. I can show monthly income of 10,000 -14,000 ( 100% commission and I must pay taxes and expenses, no retirement accounts and 48 years old). However my bills are approx 12,000 or more. I can show 150 left over per month if need to. So if anyone seeing my situation has any strategies on how I should attack this Loan Mod with Washington Mutual it will be greatly appreciated. Also, as many couples have stated this is extremely difficult on your marriage. THANK YOU ! |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! Thank you for joining and welcome to the forum.... We do not get a lot of WAMU up here since they are very good a modifying and very proactive with their customers.... You chances with them are excellent and as far as the "deal" that they give you since we get so little of their issues here that is kind of unknown. No these ARMS do not go down they have built in recapture rates, were fully indexed at the onset.....the picture is grim at best and downright ugly at worst. However modification can relieve the situation for you and WAMU is one of the better to deal with over the long haul. Credit score is not the problem or an issue, that 150.00 left over at the end of the month is great...well not really, but for this situation is in the ball park. Yes it is hard on couples, however now is the time to get stronger, and band together with family...hold on to each other, you are a team.... WAMU again is very good on this situation....so do not loose hope and if necessary with those credit cards...go to CCCS for assistance it is an informal work out like Chpt 13, with out the financial stigma on your credit report that Chpt 13 has....if need be do it. They can not help with auto or secured loans, but they sure can with the Credit Cards and keep them from harassing you all the time. Stay together and be a team, this is no one's fault, it is what it is and I am sure that if you are financial services you have heard that one more than enough.... Keep us posted, we want to know that you are OK and I would love to follow a WAMU work out....just curious you know. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! Poppy, Thank you for the response, I will keep the board informed regarding my loan modification. I recieved a letter from WaMu acknowledging my request for a Loss Mitigation work out plan. I believe this is new contact info for the forum regarding WaMu. Washington Mutual Bank Early Loss Mitigation Dept. P.O. Box 44118 Jacksonville, FL 32256 Phone: 1-866-WAMU-YES eslm@wamu.net Washington Mutual Bank Executive Response Team CR MGR Rosalva Alvarez 1-800-225-5497 ext. 467 rosalva.alvarez@wamu.net Do you think having around 15-20% equity in the home will help or hurt me in he loan modification process? Thank you |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! No having equity is actually good results in the modification process, they know that you have a vested interest in keeping the equity and equity or no equity a foreclosure costs about 15,000.00 to 35,000.00 depending on the state and the length of time involved. That also includes the cost of REO after foreclosure while the Bank has to market the property for sale again.... Your area is one of the few not designated declining values yet on the radar screen...that is good. The bank does not want you property, the investor if it is Deutsche, has plenty already, trust me. Make hay with that hardship letter and believe me the folks at WAMU understand they are loosing their jobs too in the production side faster than ever.... |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! Update: 3/14 My 143 faxed financials were received and I have been assigned to an adjuster and a BPO ( Broker Price Option) was ordered. Suggested I check back in 10 days. 3/24 My adjuster was gone for the day and I asked about the BPO the gentleman said "The BPO came back and the house is average for its age and the value is 742,000." Poppy....Thank you for taking my question. I realize I will be talking to this adjuster, perhaps tomorrow to discuss why they should modify my loan. A little background info, my loan is for 580,000. Rate 9.125%. My documented financials show a monthly surplus of $114.00 My mort payment is 5200 which represents 46% of my monthly take home. I am asking for 5.00% For 30 years or 5.25% for 35 years. Do you think my only leverage is to plead with them; 1) Why I am a good risk. 2) Say it is better for both of us to work together now to work out an agreement instead of when I am behind on payments and the value of the house has possible gone down. Do you have any other comments or stratagies on how I can push for a 30-40 year fixed rate around 5.00 - 5.50 % and hopefully get this loan modified. THANK YOU ! |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! You can ask, but if they come back with 7.0 to 7.50 be glad, they will not drop to 5.0 or 5.25%, they have an investor with anticipated income streams from the credit of 9.125% over the life of the loan.....so you can ask, but I suspect that they will not be below 7.0% on the response and I would not be surprised at higher.... I understand the hardship, but they have to meet some of the anticipated stream of income from the credit instrument...and as such are not prone to lower to that low a rate. Also the term will remain the 30 year instrument as these are sold into 30 year "bonds". Unable to modify out of that position due to the maturity on the "bond".....bond is a loose term, but same idea. I do understand your problem, I also see their problem and they have to meet the expectations in some shape or form of the investor and the yields that were committed to at the time of the "bond" issuance to the investor. You can state your case, but believe me they will come back with the offer in terms that they can sell to the investor....oh by the way the bulk of the surplus that we see in the initial stages of application for modification are 200 to 250.00 and they try to make them work within those parameters, so you certainly have the surplus in an area that should work for modification, however, be aware that the rate that you want is really not likely. Wish that it was, but reality on these investor issues are best faced going into the matter. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! Thank you PAC1010, that is YERY intresting. Wamu told me they don't do 30 yr fixed for a loan mod and more likely the new rate will be 7.50 and above for 2 years. I have all my doc's to my adjuster and she wants to make a decision today. I just recieved an email from her and she will be calling me to discuss my situatution shortly. If I could ask a few questions, when did you complete your loan mod?, great idea to discuss the renting statagey( it will help my postion), what was your monthly surpus/deficit when you completed your income and expense sheet? any other tips in negotiating my loan mod? Thanks PAC1010 you have been a lot of help! |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! The product that he was in is being serviced by WAMU but it was a Long Beach special that WAMU bought when they purchased WAMU and it is an entirely different type of product than the one that you have. The investor pools are not the same. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! There are two kinds of Long Beach Mortgage Loans....that is really confusing, however, the ones that were originated prior to WAMU being so prevalent in the situation, i.e. owners of Long Beach Mortgage and the others...the ones that they made when they became the de facto owners of Long Beach Mortgage. There was an interesting period of time there....and WAMU divested a lot of them into the Deutsche and Bear Sterns Pools. This was done in 2004 and 2005...then they started holding a whole bunch of them and retained the servicing.... Some of these loans are quite awful, and the more awful they are the more prone they are to modify them. They also have a variety of pools and investors to answer to in those pools. Now the actual WAMU loans are not as adaptable and as easy to modify for them due to the way those pools were sold out and insured. So there are really 3 different types of WAMU First Mortgages that are wafting around out there. We have not seen their Option ARMS yet, but those will make about 4 different types of First Mortgages that they will have to deal with. WAMU is very concerned about political "correctness" and as such are very proactive on the worst of the worst from Long Beach Mortgage products and still proactive on all of the other products, but not as prone to do long term modifications or for that matter really dump the rates on them. They will take the conservative position and one that no one can really find fault with if it were to be investigated. So I am not surprised with the 7.50% interest rate for 2 to even 5 years on the modification positions that they are taking on the less aggressive products. They are also tailoring the work outs to the income streams of the borrowers far more so than others. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! Here is the offer from Wamu. It was called an " Am term extended loan" (?)The loan is for 30 years however it is amortized or 40 years with a balloon payment at year 30. The paperwork should delivered in 7-10 days and I would need to have them notarized and the fee is 450.00 No payments till 6/01/08, 1st year rate 7.566 2nd year 8.346 3rd year 9.125 She mentioned I had a monthly deficit of 376.00 and with this modification I should have a surplus of 460.00. Btw-they only used my last 6 month P & L and not tax returns to come up with those numbers. I discussed the probability that this offer was not a significant enough decrease in my payments. I asked many different ways for the possibility of a lower rate for at least 30 min. She said initially she ran my numbers and the program came back and said to pursue a sale, however she said she knew we wanted to stay in the home and that ran it 5 more times and this was the best rate the program would allow her to offer. As Poppy and the rest of the board have mentioned you must be proactive with your lender. At one point I mentioned That I emailed her 5 times in one day and I hope that I wasn't being a pest and she said Oh No not at all, she liked the fact I was on top of it and mentioned most people she is dealing with are difficult to get a hold of. I was hoping for a little more relief but this will definitely help. Poppy thank you for all of your help you are sage in this loan business. If anyone wants information regarding my modification, please just ask I would be happy to share my information and strategies. Good Luck ! |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! hoodcana1, thanks for sharing that with us........ Please let us know when the docs are signed, sealed and delivered......because then it is official Success...... Congratulations on the mod!!!
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| Re: WaMu loan mod? ARM will never go down! The balloon payment is going to be large, if you can when you feel real frisky, make one extra payment a year....that will reduce the over all impact of the lack of reduction of the principle in these products......the saying has always been on 30 year product that if you make that extra payment every year, you reduce the term from 30 years and in some cases to 23 years. Even then you can make principle reductions through out the year in amounts of 50.00, 100.00, 150.00, etc...when you can, always make two checks out for this process, one for the regular payment, and one for the principle reduction....make sure you write that on the check or insert instructions in the envelope or they do get confused......always make the principle reductions in amounts of 50's or they can not figure them out..... Good, you have the modification and by making it a 40 year term they feel that the impact of the 9.125% rate in year 3 will not be such a financial burden....If you can reduce the principle some in the first 2 years when they recast at the 9.125% that to will reduce that payment at that rate as they recast on the existing principle balance every time they recast the loan when it adjusts...confusing, but they have to refigure the payments on the principle balance at the time of adjustment, not the original principle balance.... So.... CONGRATULATIONS Please keep us posted....you did good. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! Worried, can you please keep me informed what you find out from Hoodcana1? I am new to this and I don't really know how to navigate the sight. But I am also with WAMU throught Long Beach and my mortgage is going to reset in Dec. and I want to be proactive and try to modify. This story gave me some hope, I jus want to freeze my rate if possible....even if it goes up a little, but we can't afford it the way it is structured. Would love to see how things go for you as well. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! Jeanne, Worried..............is already on the way to the success section and I have answered you in your thread with the steps to take to get you here too..................all you need to do is to go to your thread and follow the steps I have given you..........
__________________ Moe Bedard Founder LoanSafe.org "America's #1 Home Loan Forum" LoanWorkout.org "America's # Loan Modification Blog" Get My FREE Loan Modification E-Book | Please donate to LoanSafe.org | Loan Modification Training For Attorneys | Rate Your Mortgage ServicerThe comments by me and the materials available at this web site are for informational purposes only and not for the purpose of providing legal advice. Most of the information you find here is easily available on the internet. You should contact your attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem. The opinions expressed at or through this site are the opinions of the individual author and may not reflect the opinions of the firm or any individual attorney. Please Read our Privacy Policy and Legal Disclaimer Here. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! Hello Jeanne, Listen to ***. The advice you she gives is priceless. I have included a link to my whole experience along with the steps I took and the contacts. I have included it here: Please let me know I can help in any other way. ***'s advice is a good place to start. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! Thank you for your email. It means sooo much knowing that you were able to work something out with WAMU, it gives me hope that we will be able to do the same thing. And I will take your advice and follow the advice from ***.....I just wish I knew how to navigate the site better! But once again, I truly appreciate it. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! *** I am really new to this stuff! But I can not thank you guys enough....between you & Worried, I feel alot better already, I know I still have a long way to go, but at least it does not seem as dire as it did originally. |
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! No worries..........if you need to find your thread just go into your profile and click on threads started............and it will take you right there.......
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| Re: WaMu loan mod, SUCCESS!!! SingleMom Check and see if there is one nearby here......... Consumer Credit Counseling Service :: Debt Management Services :: Consolidate Debt
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