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    Junior Member Jdizzle's Avatar
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    HELP--trying to reinstate with BOA

    It goes against our nature to request assistance, however our recent experiences with our lender, Bank of America, leaves us no other choice than to ask for help and guidance. We are currently in the early stages of foreclosure with Bank of America, for this we take full responsibility. However, despite our current situation, it seems nearly impossible to proceed with the reinstatement process with the unrealistic deadlines to submit the reinstatement amount. We are not terribly behind, owing roughly $4.500, and the funds required to reinstate this mortgage are totally accessible, although they require a hardship withdrawal transfer through a retirement account with Wells Fargo. This is where the frustration begins:

    -The reinstatement fees are good for 2 weeks, 10 business days.

    -Bank of America will only fax the reinstatement paperwork. They claim we will receive the faxed paperwork in 1hr-48 hrs. It will always be 2 days at least, usually around 5pm on the second day. So we have already lost 1/5 of our allotted time to get this resolved.

    -Wells Fargo requires the reinstatement fees to be mailed, which adds another 1-2 days to be mailed to North Carolina. We paid $30 to overnight the envelope and this cost us another 2 days once the processing from Wells Fargo began (4 days down).

    -We received some misinformation from multiple people from Wells Fargo about what documents were needed to proceed with this hardship process. One rep said they only required an eviction notice (we aren't even at that stage) while another claimed they need a "foreclosure notice" on Bank of America letterhead and a loan denial letter. After going back and forth they concluded that only 2 documents were required (although even now we are still unsure).

    -The loan denial was easy to obtain, however the "notice of foreclosure" document from Bank of America took another 48 hours to fax. Now, with the inconsistency from Wells Fargo on what was needed and the 2 days awaiting the fax from Bank America, we are now 7 days into our 10 allotted business days to get this resolved.

    -We contacted Wells Fargo today (6/25) because our reinstatement is due on 6/27, however they claim that 5 days is the standard processing time. I suppose we were naive in thinking that if they received the majority of our paperwork the week before perhaps once the 2 documents were faxed the wheels would already be in motion. We were hopeful that a check (it has to be a check) would be mailed (overnight at our expense) so we can race to make our deadline of 6/27, however at this point it is a lost cause. We will be forced to request new reinstatement fees on 6/27 and endure this painless process again...possibly netting the same result only with additional fees from Bank of America applied.

    Here in lies my question (my apologies for every little detail). As borrowers
    wanting to reinstate our mortgage and do good, what rights do we have? We have the funds available to reinstate, however are not given a realistic time frame with which to complete the process. We can't speed up Bank of America and their ridiculous 2 days to fax (and not email) or Wells Fargo for their 5 day standard processing time. As borrowers trying to own up to our past mistakes and reinstate our mortgage, it seems as if our lender does not want us to succeed in this endeavor. Can we legally request additional time? Can we legally request a same day fax or email? Is there any reason why we can't expedite the hardship withdrawal process with Wells Fargo?

    Again, my apologies for the length of this message. We are just very frustrated at the process and lack of understanding and assistance from anyone. We know our lender has a history of such behavior and has no real interest in us keeping our home, but we refuse to be taken advantage of when we are doing everything in our power to fulfill our obligation. Any advice or assistance would be very much appreciated. We appreciate you reading.

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    Mortgage Wars Cat Damiano's Avatar
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    Hi Jdizzle,


    Welcome to the forum and thank you for joining..........

    You can try escalating this to both the retention and executive team of BofA and the executive team of WF to see if they can resolve this dilemma and give you the time you need to reinstate your loan.

    Here are the contacts;

    Bank of America Corporation
    4161 Piedmont Parkway
    Greensboro, NC 27410
    NC4-105-02-63

    Phone: 1-800-936-6362
    Fax: 1-704-203-1350


    CEO's Office:
    brian.t.moynihan@bankofamerica.com

    Direct: 1-704-386-5687

    Wells Fargo Executive Team:

    1-800-853-8516
    Best Regards,

    Cat Damiano
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    Junior Member Jdizzle's Avatar
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    Thanks Cat,

    I really appreciate you taking the time to provide this info. It is really frustrating because we have the finances to resolve it. Oddly enough, I just received some additional reinstatement info from the attorneys office representing boa (info we actually requested). We requested it 10 days ago and just now got a reply. Also, the reinstatement due date and amount doesn't match the fees boa faxed us. The fees were $1,000 more. This seems real fishy to me. I may draft a qwr.

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    Mortgage Wars Cat Damiano's Avatar
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    You should file a written complaint with the lender addressed to Customer Service. Do not include it with your mortgage payment, which you should continue to make separately. State:

    Your loan number
    Names on loan documents
    Property and/or mailing address

    This is a "qualified written request" under Section 6 of the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act (RESPA).

    I am writing because:

    [Describe the problem and the action you believe the lender should take.]

    [Describe any previous attempts to resolve the issue, including conversations with customer service.]

    [If it is relevant to the dispute, request a copy of your payment history.]


    [List a day time telephone number.]

    I understand that under Section 6 of RESPA you are required to acknowledge my request within 20 business days and must try to resolve the issue within 60 business days

    If this doesn’t do the trick, you can file a complaint with HUD. You can also sue. According to HUD, "A borrower may bring a private law suit, or a group of borrowers may bring a class action suit, within three years, against a servicer who fails to comply with Section 6's provisions."


    Persons who believe a settlement service provider has violated RESPA in an area in which the Department has enforcement authority (primarily sections 6, 8 and 9), may wish to file a complaint. The complaint should outline the violation and identify the violators by name, address and phone number. Complainants should also provide their own name and phone number for follow up questions from HUD. Requests for confidentiality will be honored. Complaints should be sent to:


    Director, Office of RESPA and Interstate Land Sales
    U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
    Room 9154
    451 7th Street, SW
    Washington, DC 20410
    Email
    Phone: (202) 708-0502

    Send the QWR to:

    Bank of America, N.A.
    Qualified Written Request
    PO Box 942019
    Simi Valley, CA 93094-2019
    Best Regards,

    Cat Damiano
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    It looks like the poster has a private investor. I would follow Cat's suggestion here as it is a recognized action,by the lender. From your post you have said you are talking with the banks attorney, so therefore that is where your root of negotiation to redeem should start. Your state law should have language of redeemption, of which is proper. The poster Arrg ,advises incorrectly that and action can be taken in the court as there is no violation of the law by the lender or the investor. Even IF such an action could be comensed by you it would not survive a motion to dismiss. Also a copy of your QWR should be sent to the bank's attorneys ...........Jeffrey
    Last edited by Jeffrey L. Shurtliff; 07-01-2012 at 09:00 AM.

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    Senior Member pennygram's Avatar
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    pull your mortgage and find the reinstatement clause. then copy it, mark it in big red circles and send to the foreclosure attorney asking for the reinstatement amount. Once you receive the amount, review the breakdown. If you do not agree with the figures then write the a letter under the fdcpa and state the dispute or ask them to provide the documents to go with the figures. (inspection reports are my fav - everytime they are asked for the fees disappear)

    Once you are satisfied or feel no more can be done go to the foreclosure attorneys office with money in had to reinstate.
    Last edited by Cat Damiano; 07-03-2012 at 09:28 AM. Reason: already stated above
    make sure you seek attorney advise on your situation.... my comments are strictly for discussion and chit chat purposes only. I am not an attorney and my comments should not be used as any type of legal advise.

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