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HomeEq 2nd Mortgage Foreclosing

Glad to know I'm not alone after reading all the posts! We bought our house in New Hampshire in late 2005, taking out an 80/20 both through New Century. In April 2006 these were sold, the first morgage, $252,000 to Chase and the second, $63,000, to some group but serviced by HomeEq. My Significant Other (SO) lost his job in early part of 2007 and we managed to stay afloat on the loan payments while he worked lesser paying jobs, received unemployment, etc. until about September of 2007.

In November I contacted Chase and HomeEq both. Chase has been great. HomeEq has been a nightmare. Different story every time I call, rude employees, supervisors never available etc. In November I was told I could apply for a modification and was given all the information to send in, including the fax number. I called the next month, December, to check on the status and there was no record, so I faxed it all in again. Meanwhile, I'm not making any payments because I'm waiting to find out what the modification is going to be to see if I can afford it still. Looked into selling the house but told by realtor would only sell for about $275,000. We bought it for $315,000 with the 80/20 no money down, but did put a $8,000 roof on the house in early 2007. In January I call again to check on status of modification. Told by HomeEq "we don't do modifications, we don't know what you're talking about, we have no authority to do them". Finally got someone on the line who said "we had a program for awhile but we had to take it down and not sure when we'll roll it out again." I argued and argued and then was told a supervisor would call me back in 24 hours about a possible payment plan for the arrearage, based on what I had sent it for the modification. No call came, of course! What did come on 2/14 was a foreclosure sale notice from an attorney, with a sale date of 3/21. I couldn't figure it out because I didn't recognize any of the names on it, nothing said HomeEq. At first I thought it was Chase but when I talked to them they said it was not them, they were working on my modification, I didn't have an attorney file, etc. So, I call the attorney and he explains he is doing this on behalf of LandAmerica who apparently services foreclosures for HomeEq????

I call HomeEq. They don't know what I'm talking about, they don't see a sale date, but when am I going to pay off my arrearage. Go through the whole thing again. Told that my payment plan was denied on 1/18 because my SO was unemployed. I told them not true, in fact I had sent in his paystubs with the modification paperwork which is what was supposed to be being reviewed, so why they would think he was unemployed is beyond me. This Rep starts in on the whole "what modification, we don't do modifications, never have, you're confused" etc., etc. I said Ok, tell me this, what is the status of my mortgage. She replies, You're in foreclosure but no sale date. I ask again, why then do I have a letter from an attorney with a sale date? She's clueless on this. I ask what is the total amount I need to pay to get my mortgage out of foreclosure. She said had to "order the fees" that have been incurred and this sometimes takes 3 hours, sometimes 24 hours. I ask what do I just owe in payments? They can't tell me!!!! What?!?!

I call back 20 hours later, and they still don't have the fees yet so can't tell me an amount. I ask again about the foreclosure date and the rep has no clue and asks me to fax her the letter. I wait a few hours and call back and get a bozo so immediately ask to be transferred to someone else. I get a decent human being, Wanda!!! She easily sees in the "attorney notes" that there's a sale date, so the letter is valid. She also is able to calculate the total amount I owe to stop the foreclosure - $3,600 in payments and $3,400 in fees/interest/etc. I tell her I don't have $7,000. I tell her about the whole modification story and she says that HomeEq had anticipated being able to do modifications so were telling people to send in their information for a modification, but then the modification program was never implemented! She asks why I didn't get into a repayment plan and I tell her apparently someone decided my SO was unemployed and denied it, but nobody ever informed me of this, all I got was the foreclosure sale notice. She quickly calculates if I can pay $2,500 by 3/14 then I would have to pay $1,600/month for April, May June and July. That's $1,000 more a month than my regular payment!! I tell her I don't have anywhere close to an extra $1,000/month for any month, let alone four in a row. She says that's the maximum they could spread them out, four months.

I called a bankruptcy attorney in town and will meet with him Friday, 3/14. One thing I've read online is that if my home is no longer worth what my second mortgage is covering, than in a Chapter 13 filing, the judge can strip it from being a secured loan to an unsecured loan and basically it's treated like any other unsecured debt in a Chapter 13. I called our real estate agent to ask her what she thinks it's worth now but haven't heard back. I imagine it's down another $10,000. That leaves about $13,000 secured on my $63,000 HomeEq second mortgage. I'm hoping the attorney will tell me that the second mortgage can be modifiable in a Chapter 13, or that this strip down thing is possible and I can even walk away from it. I know the first mortgage can't and that's ok because Chase has done that for me. The paralegal who took some information when scheduling my appt. with the attorney said she can't beleive the second is foreclosing when the first isn't foreclosing, and that the value of the house is barely covering any of the second. She said why aren't they willing to do a modification? I told her that was one longgggg story!

I also called the NH Banking Commission today to inform them of the misinformation and mistakes done by HomeEq. I consider myself reasonably intelligent and I am lost and confused on everything going on with HomeEq. I'm not even clear on who holds that mortgage and if I could have all along worked directly with that entity on a modification since HomeEq was saying they are just a servicer and have "no authority" to do modifications.

So there's my HomeEq Horror Story. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for letting me vent! It's late here on the East Coast so I need to get some sleep to have energy to fight the fight with HomeEq another day!!


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Old 03-12-2008, 10:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: HomeEq 2nd Mortgage Foreclosing

Welcome and Thank you for joining the forum.....

It is unusual that the 2nd would be foreclosing, but we are seeing seconds get frisky in the last few weeks. I am starting to think with two of the postings that I have seen up here that it is being driven by the pool insurance that the investors require on the Securitization Pools and that they are being forced into a corner due to significant losses and forcing the hand of the servicer to foreclose on some of the higher risk second pools. They have to pay out the first when they do this...dumb, they are underwater on the collateral by the cost of the foreclosure, the underwater valuation on the house....really dumb...they will wind up with 0.00 out of the Second obligation after all is said and done. Really dumb...morons....

You have called the right person with the State Banking Commissioner to start with, next go to the State AG's Office...and HUD and the FTC...lodge complaints as to the whole process that you have been through, give them the full chronology of the events that led up to this and any correspondence that you have from them....

They are a horribly abusive batch of folks...there is a thread from Joron here that reflects a class action suit...see if you can contact her through the thread and determine if you are a member of the class.

Here it is: http://www.loansafe.org/forum/tell-u...anagement.html

Meanwhile try HOPE 888.995.HOPE and ACORN ACORN: Home

Also see the BK attorney and make those complaints and check on the thread above. I am concerned that if we see more of this we are in for a real treat, get the first modified and then have the second be the piker.

Oh, while you are in Chapter 13 you can not modify Chase...be aware that there are issues there, so make sure that your affairs with Chase are in good order. They will be quite antsy about the Chapter 13 and all of the incumbent problems that are attendant with a Chapter 13 and a distressed mortgage position. Make sure that the attorney that you choose is good with follow up after filing many of them file and the chance of ever talking with them after they have their money and the filing done are slim and none. If you do not like the guy or get that funny feeling find another one that is a true professional, remember they work for you - you hire them when you pay them, for the duration, make sure that he/she knows that.
 
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Re: HomeEq 2nd Mortgage Foreclosing

An update on my situation. Met with a BK attorney yesterday. He said that if there is zero value behind the second mortgage, in a bankruptcy it can be treated as unsecured, and handled just like credit card debt. However, he advised that the mortgage company is most likely going to find an appraiser who will put the house at just enough to show there's some bit of value behind the second. So although it's possible, it isn't something that the mortgage company would just allow to happen without a fight. I had a real estate agent yesterday tell me she would put the value right now around $260,000, and my first mortgage is $252,000, so it's not worth it to me to pursue this option unfortunately. (Although she did tell me in southern New Hampshire right now prices that have been declining rapidly for past 6-12 months are now in what she would call a free fall plunge.)

Every single person I talk to about the fact that my second is foreclosing when my first is not, is completely surprised. They've never heard of this. But lucky us, we're experiencing it.

The atty also confirmed that if we do file for BK, the modification that is currently pending with Chase (first mortgage) will be put on hold. And once I'm out of the modification area with Chase, I'm sure they'll put us right into foreclosure.

The BK attorney spent a lot of time with us going over options we have and certainly wasn't pushing bankruptcy over other options, so we feel confident in his advice. Today my SO and I are going to weigh our options based on all the information we've been given (including the insight into our overall financial situation we got from the consumer credit counseling agency we went to a few weeks ago) and then on Sunday he and I will make a decision. The foreclosure sale is Friday so we need to have a firm plan in place on what we're doing. (Right now it's raining on top of the huge piles of snow in the yard so surely water will begin seeping in the basement soon....that will probably push us more towards letting the house go and leaving the leaky basement to a new home owner to contend with! )
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Re: HomeEq 2nd Mortgage Foreclosing

One thing that I know that you can do in a Chapter 13 is that if their appraiser is full of HOT AIR, you can hire your own very well designated...MAI designation appraiser to preform and competing appraisal and submit that to the courts for the court to rule on.

Personally I would take the tack with Chase to hurry the heck up and get that one tamed and nail the Second. Has Chase given you any idea of the time frame, yes I do know how slow they are.....

Please let me know.
 
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Re: HomeEq 2nd Mortgage Foreclosing

The first person I talked to at Chase on Friday responded like a robot when I asked if they could finish up the mod prior to pending BK filing to prevent the second from foreclosing. He said "Everyone is in the same crisis, we process them in the order received and there's no exceptions". I said "really, everyone is 10 days from their second mortgage foreclosing on them?" and he repeated word for word what he'd just said. I told him he wasn't being helpful so please transfer me to someone else. The next person I got was better, she at least understood how unusual it was that HomeEq was foreclosing and unwilling to do a modification. However, she states that Chase is making no exceptions on moving someone's mod ahead of another because they get requests all day long for this and they just can't accomodate them all. She guesses it will be another 20 days before I'll have the paperwork to sign....too late for me. I'll call back on Monday and ask for a supervisor and see what I can get that way.
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I would stress with them that this is in their best interests....no lie, it is, they are not fully up on the issues at hand here. So as is in both your's and their mutual interest and benefit to get this tamed NOW. Otherwise they are going to take a *** Bird seat to the BK and be in somewhat the same boat they are in today......

I have no idea how to compel them, other than to really make a strong case for the "mutual interest" as it really is to their best interest and yours as well.

Let me know the upshot on Monday, keep at them, go up the Food Chain as far as you can...all the way UP.
 
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