How do you know if your left or right wing if you don't know what it is

[Slim Shavings]

I'll put this here so people won't think I'm trying to force something on them

I hear people talking left and right, Lib and conservative and so on. And when you get right down to it few know what it is.
Thanks to our wonderful education system and some political types the usual thing you get when you ask someone to show you the difference on paper is this.
They draw a line and on one end they put Socialism and on the other they put Fascism. Then they put democrat and republicans somewhere in the middle. This is totally wrong!!!

First of all left and right correctly is the difference between totalitarianism (I hate to spell that) and Anarchy

Totalitarianism (I hate to spell that) is when you have TOTAL government control.

Anarchy is when there is no control what so ever,

Secondly Socialism and Fascism are basically the same thing. The only difference is weather the govt. owns and control it or individuals own it and the govt. controls it.

The correct way to show left and right on paper is to draw a line. On the left end you put totalitarianism (I hate to spell that). On the right you put Anarchy. In between you have Socialism on the left, Fascism just right of that. Liberal to the right of that and conservative right of that.

Now you can judge where you are. If you think that the government should control everything, that you will never run out of things to tax. And want to relieve yourself of all responsibility of making a decision you lean far left into totalitarianism (I hate to spell that)

If you want to make all your own decisions, realize that there is only so much money to go around, and want to take full responsibility of your life then you can be far left into Anarchy.

Most of us tend to be somewhere in the middle. We realize that sometimes we need laws and government and sometimes we need to be left alone. Some things are better done in a financial co-operative scenario (Taxes). And we find it better if we have some help in defending ourselves from others.

SO you can evaluate how left or right you are by this kind of line.

To many times we have to many people who operate by emotion, live in a dream world and think government running everything is the answer so there is equal happiness. Or we live strictly by cold reality and think what ever happens to you is totally your fault and "good luck"

Going to far either way rarely works to well.

What we need is balance. Unfortunately as humans we grow fatter and lazier and tend to drift way to the left after time.
What you see after a disaster or during a war is what happens when we go to far right.

Judge yourself

[Garry]

What we need is logic and truth, I don't think thats asking for much. When I hear a regular person talking bad about the public option, I have to think to myself how stupid they are. Totally mis-informed, sheep. Any regular person that understands the public option would be insisting on it, I don't care what party they are with. It's only a freedom of choice to things that already exist. The r-party is spreading nothing but pure lies to denie us our freedoms. Anti-American.

[Slim Shavings]

What we need is logic and truth, I don't think thats asking for much. When I hear a regular person talking bad about the public option, I have to think to myself how stupid they are. Totally mis-informed, sheep. Any regular person that understands the public option would be insisting on it, I don't care what party they are with. It's only a freedom of choice to things that already exist. The r-party is spreading nothing but pure lies to denie us our freedoms. Anti-American.

Notice I said NOTHING about health care. Yet you continue to rant on it. You destroy your own credibility and make yourself nothing but a mouth piece for the left.

But since you mentioned it. I will make my own choices!! Thankyou!!! I have no need for goverment to take responsibilty for my health.
I just look at
SS
Vet Care
Post office
Stimulus Package
Bank Bailout
Medicare
Any government program you choose. They are ALL failures and way to expensive.

I want government to build roads and infrastructure, defend my country. the private sector can take care of the rest.

Have you noticed that while health care just gets more expensive. Lazik which is not covered by the government gets cheaper

[Garry]

Your true colors are shining through. peace

[Slim Shavings]

Your true colors are shining through. peace

Think of this

Suppose we are hit by Nukes or Huge Nat Disaster. Who will fare better.. Those who look to the government AKA Katrina. (Funny the rest of the coast which got hit harder is fine)
Or people like me who take responsibility for themselves and prepare. I learned that living at 11000 ft and realizing the government wasn't going to get me out of a rock slide, an avalanche or when I fell into snow that was 5 ft above my head

And Yes My true dolors are showing. And Im not ashamed of them nor will I allow the government to tell me what they should be

[wanttokeepit]

Slim makes some great points. I do, However, agree with a public option for healthcare. Just as we rely on the community as a whole for fire protection, security (police) and education, healthcare is just as important to every individual.

Why if we pool our resources together to pay for those services, why leave healthcare out? simple, it just so happens the great majority of us are covered thru an employer-provided insurance, so why should I sponsor a public plan when I am already covered? Yet, none of us have issues when it comes to paying for cops, teachers and firemen, why? simple, those are not benefits we can get thru our employers and we cannot afford to pay for them out of pocket.
Hence, we are ok relying on the goverment (any level) to provide these services.

I would like to see those against the public option also fight to make everyone responsible for their kids education and pay for private school, hire private security firm, and have a contract with a private fire-prevention/assistance company as we do away with these public options.

People, it is as simple as this: Education, Safety, Firehouses AND HEALTHCARE are all BASIC needs of EVERY community and individual. Our society must ensure they are provided on every community to everyone. Beyond that, I agree with Slim, I don't feel comfortable having the government running car companies and banks and being the only solution to all our problems, I wish to see most welfare programs disappear and the ones that are legitimate, keep them, but only provide them to those that really need it, too much abuse from loosers to get their hands on our (taxpayers) dollars.

[Garry]

Quotes by Slim: I have no need for government to take responsibility for my health. Any government program you choose. They are ALL failures and way to expensive. I want government to build roads and infrastructure, defend my country.
You're asking a lot of your government Slim, for a guy thats against them. That "military" you speak of is a "Government Run Program" guess you better stop counting on them. P.S. Glad to hear you have health care and have no compassion for anyone else. Typical Republican attitude, self-centered. I am God, everyone else is dog shit.

[darlyj]

If a government option is going to be instated, do it correctly. DO NOT look at any other government-run system, especially Canada's system. I have heard so many people bring that up as an example of a good system....it's not. Maybe not necessarily on this forum, but that seems to be what everyone is thinking and what eventually comes up. Allow me a few words on socialized healthcare because like it or not, that is what a government run system is. Only the system being proposed in the US will be worse off due to the incessant lobbying and influence of the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.

Health care will have a BUDGET. Guess what that will mean a few years down the line. Try asking my FIL's friend who needed life-saving heart surgery....oh wait, you can't. They wouldn't perform his surgery so he died. Why? Because of the cost versus his age and future benefit (ie taxes collected) to the general population. That is quite literally what the government-run system told him. You honestly think that won't wind up happening here? You're liable to be very unpleasantly surprised in ten years. Either that or we'll wind up seeing the national debt skyrocket even more than it is now.

A dear friend needed back surgery due to an injury. He was early 30's, very healthy, and has a young family to support. It took TWO YEARS for him to get his surgery done...it would have taken two months here. He spent weeks at a time completely down and unable to work during those two years.

Sweden has a great cradle to grave health care system....until you get to the late stages of life and then the cost versus benefit system takes over. Grave has a tendancy to take over shortly thereafter.

Does something need to be done in this country with health care? Absolutely. Do we need to be careful and not f*** it up like everything else has been the last couple of years? Um, yeah. Push it through too quickly with too many holes for insurance interests and you'll wind up worse off than you were before. The COSTS are the major problem and when even the GAO says that the current plan will not do anything to curb them, don't you think maybe it's time to take another look? Every level needs to be re-evaluated, from doctors up to insurance and pharmaceutical corporations. Those two lobbies alone account for a ton of money in campaign funds, so your chances of changing healthcare for the better of all are about the same as changing the banking industry in this country for the better. Which brings me to another point.....everyone knows that the politicians and banking industry are not being honest about the whole mortgage mess. What makes you think that they are being honest and totally forthcoming about health care? Seriously.

And Garry....I'm pretty independent as far as politics, but I'd rather be able to help my family (and anyone else who believes in taking responsibilty for themselves) out of a shitty situation than stew in it and wind up getting a rash waiting for someone to come rescue me. If that is arrogant, then that is a label I will happily bear.

[Garry]

So you think we should put the whole thing off for another 10 or 20 years, right? Here's the thing, nobody is talking about a government run health care system, that's not even on the table. So what are you trying to say? I will have a choice between private insurance or Medicaid, that's all it is. Are you saying it's not my right as an American to have that choice, because it sure does sound like it. Anti-American

[Garry]

And one more for you, What makes you think Medicaid will be free for everyone? If I choose to take the Medicaid, I don't have a problem PAYING for it. I also don't have a problem helping pay for those that need it, raise my taxes, I don't give a shit. I would be happy to see my tax dollars going toward helping my people who are dieing in the streets because of no health care. Imagine, my tax dollars going toward helping the people, what a concept.

[darlyj]

Really? Is that because the government so efficiently handles all of our tax funds already? Those special interests get squat from our angelic elected officials in return for all of their lobbying and campaign money, right? Again, what in the Hell makes you think anything a politician, Republican, Democrat or otherwise is truthful? Their job is to GET ELECTED. How do you get elected? WITH MONEY!! Where does the majority of that come from? SPECIAL INTERESTS! Anybody with half a brain knows that the medical field fleeces the Hell out of the Medicare/Medicaid system. Yeah, it's great to have a choice and I am not denying that fact....what I am questioning is exactly how this is going to bring down COSTS. It doesn't matter what you do or think, the US government will still have to PAY for it without going even more flat ass broke than we already are. If you actually took the time to read my previous post, I flatly stated that yes something needs to be done. But for God's sakes, DON'T F*** IT UP MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS!!!!! Most people I know, myself included, don't have a problem paying a little more in taxes if said taxes go towards actually helping those who need it, and not to those who don't. I have a close friend who is a C4 quadraplegic, and he does more for himself (working included) than many able-bodied people choose to. Where are the safeguards to prevent slackers from taking advantage?

Anti-American am I? When was the last time YOU volunteered your time to help someone other than yourself? When was the last time YOU donated to a shelter or a food bank? When was the last time YOU sent a care package to a soldier overseas? When was the last time YOU helped someone for no compensation simply because they needed it and it was the right thing to do? Think before you open your mouth, pal. Some of us actually MAKE the time to get off of our butts and go out and try to help and make a difference, rather than just talk about it.

[Slim Shavings]

Slim makes some great points. I do, However, agree with a public option for healthcare. Just as we rely on the community as a whole for fire protection, security (police) and education, healthcare is just as important to every individual.

Why if we pool our resources together to pay for those services, why leave healthcare out? simple, it just so happens the great majority of us are covered thru an employer-provided insurance, so why should I sponsor a public plan when I am already covered? Yet, none of us have issues when it comes to paying for cops, teachers and firemen, why? simple, those are not benefits we can get thru our employers and we cannot afford to pay for them out of pocket.
Hence, we are ok relying on the goverment (any level) to provide these services.

I would like to see those against the public option also fight to make everyone responsible for their kids education and pay for private school, hire private security firm, and have a contract with a private fire-prevention/assistance company as we do away with these public options.

People, it is as simple as this: Education, Safety, Firehouses AND HEALTHCARE are all BASIC needs of EVERY community and individual. Our society must ensure they are provided on every community to everyone. Beyond that, I agree with Slim, I don't feel comfortable having the government running car companies and banks and being the only solution to all our problems, I wish to see most welfare programs disappear and the ones that are legitimate, keep them, but only provide them to those that really need it, too much abuse from loosers to get their hands on our (taxpayers) dollars.

Not a lot of time now.

You make some good point but have you though about them. What your talking about is mostly done on a local level. And thats where government should be and was intended. When you go to town you should be able to see and talk to hose who govern you most.

Its time for people to take responsibility for what is going on. Are the banks a problem? Yes Is the government a problem ? Yes. Are we the problem? Absolutely! But that is the part nobody wants to accept. We all got fat and lazy and just assumed that government and regulation would take care of us. now were all busy learning how banks work, how government works and trying to take back what we left go of.

[Slim Shavings]

Quotes by Slim: I have no need for government to take responsibility for my health. Any government program you choose. They are ALL failures and way to expensive. I want government to build roads and infrastructure, defend my country.
You're asking a lot of your government Slim, for a guy thats against them. That "military" you speak of is a "Government Run Program" guess you better stop counting on them. P.S. Glad to hear you have health care and have no compassion for anyone else. Typical Republican attitude, self-centered. I am God, everyone else is dog shit.

Why are you ducking th question? Are you Socialsit or not

As for the Military. WE lost the political war i beasue of liberals like Hanoi Jane. now were loosing in Afghanistan because of liberals.

And I'm not a republican. But lets suppose I am. I believe if you look into the giving in this nation Republicans BY FAR out give the Democrats.
As far as I am GOd thing. It seems your boy Obama has that down pat. Put everybody else in charge and throw them under the bus if anything happens. Van Jones and h ow many others.
And now we already have the first failings of Health care. The chosen one promised 1.2 million doses of vaccine and we got what 13,000 or something like that. But we are getting plenty of excuses. I wouldn't take the thing if there was 50 million.
As far as left wing principles how about I spend a little time later and talk about a text book operation. you know Rhodesia, the breadbasket of Africa!! OOPS Its Zimbabwe now the poorest country in Africa. Time does fly

As for me saying the hell with everybody look at my post above. And let me ask you are you willing to admit you were part of the problem. Are you ready to admit your really a 5th column socialist.

[Slim Shavings]

Really? Is that because the government so efficiently handles all of our tax funds already? Those special interests get squat from our angelic elected officials in return for all of their lobbying and campaign money, right? Again, what in the Hell makes you think anything a politician, Republican, Democrat or otherwise is truthful? Their job is to GET ELECTED. How do you get elected? WITH MONEY!! Where does the majority of that come from? SPECIAL INTERESTS! Anybody with half a brain knows that the medical field fleeces the Hell out of the Medicare/Medicaid system. Yeah, it's great to have a choice and I am not denying that fact....what I am questioning is exactly how this is going to bring down COSTS. It doesn't matter what you do or think, the US government will still have to PAY for it without going even more flat ass broke than we already are. If you actually took the time to read my previous post, I flatly stated that yes something needs to be done. But for God's sakes, DON'T F*** IT UP MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS!!!!! Most people I know, myself included, don't have a problem paying a little more in taxes if said taxes go towards actually helping those who need it, and not to those who don't. I have a close friend who is a C4 quadraplegic, and he does more for himself (working included) than many able-bodied people choose to. Where are the safeguards to prevent slackers from taking advantage?

Anti-American am I? When was the last time YOU volunteered your time to help someone other than yourself? When was the last time YOU donated to a shelter or a food bank? When was the last time YOU sent a care package to a soldier overseas? When was the last time YOU helped someone for no compensation simply because they needed it and it was the right thing to do? Think before you open your mouth, pal. Some of us actually MAKE the time to get off of our butts and go out and try to help and make a difference, rather than just talk about it.

I hope your not talking to me. i did two tours in Nam. And two sons went to Desert Storm and I lost the oldest one. So if you preaching to me you preaching to the wrong person.

[Maurice Bedard]

I am neither left nor right. I am neither Democrat nor Republican. I am neither socialist nor am I communist. I am free man (at least in my mind) with no labels or agendas to push.

Please do not place me in these "man made" facades and that you all call left or right and socialist, liberal or fascist. This is all so meaningless when you look at the true meaning of life.

Why?

Because we are all really slaves meant to look as if we are free and if you never get that Slim or anyone reading this and look past all this BS, then you'll never get how the real world works. You will continue to be divided with one another over meaningless words and beliefs propagandized in your mind by schools, TV and military.

They must distract the people with inane subjects, like sports, politics (thinking there is any difference among party leaders), via TV, so that they don’t notice what’s really going on.

There plan has worked more they they could ever imagine.

What we do to make ourselves safe eventually creates the situation for our demise. – R. Moss

One who trades freedom for security deserves neither. – Ben Franklin

The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective. – Aldous Huxley – Brave New World Revisited, 1958

The sole objective of the Global Elite is to create an Economic Slave Force – “an economic system owned by the workers and controlled by the state, economic growth and planning controlled by a central authority, corporations and their stocks regulated by the gov’t, private FRB controlling interest rates and income tax, and political control by an authoritative party” – FDR.

The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes. – Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

I am concerned for the security of our great nation, not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within. — General Douglas MacArthur

[darlyj]

Slim, I can't see your latest entry where you quoted me has come up but let me just say that you ARE CERTAINLY NOT the one my comments were directed at. I was one of those (if his response was not directed only at my comments) that Garry referred to as Anti-American. My comments in that last paragraph were directed towards anyone who wants to refer to me and my family in such a manner.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for our military personnel....my grandfather was driving the first tank that hit the beaches of Okinawa when the US took it back in WWII and I have many friends currently serving in the sandbox, and several who are gearing up to go. We also have many friends in law enforcement from local police to federal agents, so you can imagine how we feel about those who are willing to stick their necks out to help maintain and better our family's quality of life in this country. I played taps at the Veteran's ceremonies on Memorial Day as a teenager and cried tears of gratitude during the gun salute. So you can bet your ass that I will be the last one in line criticizing you in that manner.

[Chased around and around]

What we need is logic and truth, I don't think thats asking for much. When I hear a regular person talking bad about the public option, I have to think to myself how stupid they are. Totally mis-informed, sheep. Any regular person that understands the public option would be insisting on it, I don't care what party they are with. It's only a freedom of choice to things that already exist. The r-party is spreading nothing but pure lies to denie us our freedoms. Anti-American.

LOL, OMG this is why I don't talk to or waste with my time with libs.

Libs could careless about "logic and truth". Libs live on emotion, facts do not count.

Look at what is happening to our once great country, the libs are in charge and destroying everything in their path, talk about being un-American.

LOL yeah bring up the "sheep senario", you guys live for what lies the lying lib main stream media puts out on a daily basis, pathetic.

"Ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is forever"...

[Maurice Bedard]

Where do all you get your information? Can everyone please answer this honestly before we keep going back and forth? Meaning books, TV etc. and please name them. Fox, CNBC, Beck, Olberman, Opera etc?

This is going to be interesting.

[darlyj]

Where do all you get your information? Can everyone please answer this honestly before we keep going back and forth? Meaning books, TV etc. and please name them. Fox, CNBC, Beck, Olberman, Opera etc?

This is going to be interesting.

First person experience of myself and family and a little critical thought.

[Slim Shavings]

Where do all you get your information? Can everyone please answer this honestly before we keep going back and forth? Meaning books, TV etc. and please name them. Fox, CNBC, Beck, Olberman, Opera etc?

This is going to be interesting.

Trust but verify
I listen to Fox and the radio shows. Last I counted I listen to 8 different shows. And then its verified at night by searches. And finally last but not least I have lived and watched these people grow up. And I have spent the last ten years in malls all over this country contributing to the spending mania buy putting in the finishing touches on stores like North Face,Nike,Coach,Converse etc. All the time watching and shaking my head as the spending went on and the people ignored the government of the people.by the people and at the same time go on a liberal binge ****ing up the so called compassion for everything just knowing the government was looking out for them. that it was the banks business to take care of their financial lives.

[Slim Shavings]

Slim, I can't see your latest entry where you quoted me has come up but let me just say that you ARE CERTAINLY NOT the one my comments were directed at. I was one of those (if his response was not directed only at my comments) that Garry referred to as Anti-American. My comments in that last paragraph were directed towards anyone who wants to refer to me and my family in such a manner.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for our military personnel....my grandfather was driving the first tank that hit the beaches of Okinawa when the US took it back in WWII and I have many friends currently serving in the sandbox, and several who are gearing up to go. We also have many friends in law enforcement from local police to federal agents, so you can imagine how we feel about those who are willing to stick their necks out to help maintain and better our family's quality of life in this country. I played taps at the Veteran's ceremonies on Memorial Day as a teenager and cried tears of gratitude during the gun salute. So you can bet your ass that I will be the last one in line criticizing you in that manner.

I know. I got in a hurry in my reading and didn't understand and then took my self by the nap of the neck and checked my facts Such a conservative thing to do you know

[darlyj]

I know. I got in a hurry in my reading and didn't understand and then took my self by the nap of the neck and checked my facts Such a conservative thing to do you know

LMAO! Go figure.....

[Garry]

Why are you ducking th question? Are you Socialsit or not

I feel no need to justify myself or brag about anything I have done in my life, Sorry. I guess you can call me what-ever makes you feel better. I tend to agree with Moe on a lot of things, I consider myself a free man although I know that none of us really are.

[Garry]

We are led to think we are in charge, but in reality, we are in charge of nothing.

[darlyj]

We are led to think we are in charge, but in reality, we are in charge of nothing.

In many respects, you are exactly right. I would like to think that we do have a choice in others though....wishful thinking maybe, but still.....

We are trying to take responsibility for ourselves and help our neighbors who wish to do the same. Maybe in some ways we can gain a little control back even if it is something as simple as choosing smaller, local businesses to support and relying more on ourselves to put food on the table vs a supermarket. Then again, you hurt the supermarket and you hurt the local people who work there. Damned if you do and damned if you don't, eh?

It probably won't happen in any of our lifetimes, but it would be nice to think that someday enough people will get sick enough of the status quo to give up a few conveniences to change something for the better of all, instead of simply benefiting a few in the long run.

[luvmyhorse]

I love how you are attacking the left... the eight years of the right, and a moran at that, ELECTED TWICE, BY PEOPLE IN A COMMA IS what got us all here... have the rednecks put down their beers long enough to figure out that we were deeply IN DEBT, the day OBAMA took over?

Yes once you get deep in dept the momentum takes off and your decline happens VERY FAST....WHICH IS WHY THE DEPT CONTINUED TO INCREASE. Anyone struggling with loan modifications knows that. You hang on for a long time, then suddenly momentum takes you to a place you can't recover from. That's what happened to us all because of Mr. Moron, can't even say his name. But people have the ridiculous Audacity to blame the left? To want to destroy social sytems that were a total success.

Do all the rednecks know why social security is bankrupt? THE MORON, borrowed from Social Security to fund HIS WARS!

HEllo Wake up and smell the burnt coffee.

Keep voting for the republicans, and you are condemning yourself to a life of poverty, unless you happen to be lucky enough to be among the top 3 percent, then you will do well, but can you look out at your brothers and sisters suffering and literally dying from lack of health care, food and heat, and enjoy your wealth?

Only the most evil people will be happy with the new Regime. If you still think you want to vote for the Republicans, for GOD'S sake EDUCATE YOURSELF!

Think about the GoLDEN RULE,
Think about humanity,

Think about your own poverty which will be delivered to you on a paper plate.

WAKE UP!

I'll put this here so people won't think I'm trying to force something on them

I hear people talking left and right, Lib and conservative and so on. And when you get right down to it few know what it is.
Thanks to our wonderful education system and some political types the usual thing you get when you ask someone to show you the difference on paper is this.
They draw a line and on one end they put Socialism and on the other they put Fascism. Then they put democrat and republicans somewhere in the middle. This is totally wrong!!!

First of all left and right correctly is the difference between totalitarianism (I hate to spell that) and Anarchy

Totalitarianism (I hate to spell that) is when you have TOTAL government control.

Anarchy is when there is no control what so ever,

Secondly Socialism and Fascism are basically the same thing. The only difference is weather the govt. owns and control it or individuals own it and the govt. controls it.

The correct way to show left and right on paper is to draw a line. On the left end you put totalitarianism (I hate to spell that). On the right you put Anarchy. In between you have Socialism on the left, Fascism just right of that. Liberal to the right of that and conservative right of that.

Now you can judge where you are. If you think that the government should control everything, that you will never run out of things to tax. And want to relieve yourself of all responsibility of making a decision you lean far left into totalitarianism (I hate to spell that)

If you want to make all your own decisions, realize that there is only so much money to go around, and want to take full responsibility of your life then you can be far left into Anarchy.

Most of us tend to be somewhere in the middle. We realize that sometimes we need laws and government and sometimes we need to be left alone. Some things are better done in a financial co-operative scenario (Taxes). And we find it better if we have some help in defending ourselves from others.

SO you can evaluate how left or right you are by this kind of line.

To many times we have to many people who operate by emotion, live in a dream world and think government running everything is the answer so there is equal happiness. Or we live strictly by cold reality and think what ever happens to you is totally your fault and "good luck"

Going to far either way rarely works to well.

What we need is balance. Unfortunately as humans we grow fatter and lazier and tend to drift way to the left after time.
What you see after a disaster or during a war is what happens when we go to far right.

Judge yourself

[luvmyhorse]

We are led to think we are in charge, but in reality, we are in charge of nothing.

Garry I think we have some power, but due to the fact that the masses are so brainwashed they are actually voting for the benefit of the group brainwashing them instead of themselves.

Its a simple case of Stockholm Syndrome.

Anyone who makes under 500,000 a year and votes for the Republicans is literally writing their own prescription for a future of poverty. What pisses me off, is that I don't vote for it, but I HAVE TO LOSE MY SOCIAL SECURTIY AND HEALTH BENEFITS?

My health insurance goes up every year, and my co pays are so ridicualous I avoid going to the doctor, and guess what its getting worse. God forbid I actualy get sick, I am doomed to die.

I heard in AZ a GOP said they put the cap of a value of a human life and 200,000. If the procedure is more than then they deny it.

[tryinmybest]

There is corruption in the Republican party and the Democrat party. In addition, I have
seen many people switch sides to get elected. So what are they?
You have to look at the issues individually and
not as a party issue.

[FedUp02]

What happened to the recentlyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXC##########zzzzz

[pendlehaven]

I really have no sides, I've been a GOP member since college, and not because of beliefs mind you, it was cause it was easier to get a job that way! I don't view myself as leaning towards either side all the way, what human can truly believe all the way to the right or all the way to the left? In my mind i have some conservative views and some liberal views, so that just puts me in the middle.