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This is a discussion on New York Times - Media Blitz within the Loan Modification forums, part of the Foreclosure Forum category; I have a weekly newsletter that I am getting out to about 500 folks in a certain industry. I am ...
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz I have a weekly newsletter that I am getting out to about 500 folks in a certain industry. I am sending out the "plea" to sign the petition but since these folks are not seeing a related news article and may have no idea what a HAMP (not HEMP) is I dd a much longer report for the less aware: This is not directly related to the industry but could affect you or friends that may be struggling with mortgage payments and thought the Home Affordability Modification Program (HAMP) would help. Info on HAMP is on Making Home Affordable - Home and many other sites. I encourage folks to sign a petition if you are willing: Desperate Home Owners Petition Congress For Help PETITION TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT FROM AMERICAN HOMEOWNERS | Petition2Congress | Background The HAMP program is very good for what it was designed to do. Basically if qualified it adjusts your 1st mortgage payment to 31% of gross income to help the ongoing foreclosure crisis. You also have to pass a Net Present Value Test which compares the benefit to the mortgage holder (investor) of modification vs foreclosure. This test is usually not the prime problem, especially in AZ where many are far underwater. Sadly it does not help the unemployed since you have to qualify income wise but for those that have enough verifiable income 1st mortgages can be modified down to 2% interest and a 40-year term. The HAMP program is already fully funded from TARP funding. The funds only go to servicers and investors as incentives after the final modifications are done. "Servicers are the banks you pay each month but usually they do not actually own the loan. The loans are usually owned by an investor perhaps in a securitized mortgage pool. Why HAMP is failing in its goals It is the servicers implementation that is the problem of why HAMP is not working. Treasury is trying to "shame" servicers to do more modifications by monthly reporting, but there is no enforcement power in the law for servicers to follow the many Treasury/HAMP Directives. Servicers make more money by foreclosing than they get from the Treasury incentives. Servicers that have received TARP funding are required to participate as are all that service loans for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who own or guarantee most first mortgages in the U.S. Most major banks participate, however reluctantly. There is also a FHA-HAMP. "We believe all servicers must do more to reach struggling homeowners faster," Treasury spokeswoman Meg Reilly said." REACHING homeowners is NOT THE ISSUE. It is easy to get on trials but they often are required for 6 months instead of 3 per the HAMP directives. The issue is being able to get final modifications as often the directives are not followed and additional requirements are being imposed by servicers and lenders. Most servicers, and Fannie and Freddie as investors are backlogged for many months since there is to much "reaching" going on to get more in the pipeline they can't process. But the servicers can brag about how many modifications they have started - these are only trials not the actual permanent modifications. It is getting the final modifications approved that is the huge problem. Many servicers are finding any excuse they can to foreclose instead of modify because the servicers make more money by foreclosing. It is the investor (often Fannie or Freddie i.e. taxpayers) that lose. The servicers get fees for foreclosing, managing the property owned and reselling it . Many lawyers, consumer groups and recently a Congressional Oversight Committee has pointed out the servicer problems. Instead of doing more for desperate homeowners who should qualify for the HAMP program, new money is being allocated for tax credits for new buyers instead of fixing HAMP for the millions with families in crisis trying to save their homes. It is common to have to resend the same documents many times as the servicers either intentionally lose them or are just too overwhelmed. Than they claim in the media, that they aren't getting the documents that have been mailed or faxed repeatedly. There is a huge amount of documentation needed first to get confirmed on the trial and then another set that is about the same thing again only this time notarized. And both sets are often lost by the servicers. Plus they often toss in more hard or impossible to meet requirements not needed under the HAMP directives. If you are denied a final modification after typically 5-6 months paying the 31% trial rate, often for reasons not part of the requirements, they can foreclose and sell your home immediately with no further notice. That power to foreclose and sell is even in the Trial Agreement document you have to sign. What is a good program is a total disaster because of these problems. Started a few days ago, over 1000 folks have used the petition to try and have Congress get the message and address these issues. This same petition idea might be used for our industry if the time is right to raise the right issues. |
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Sorry, my brain is beyond fried with this banking garbage.....the old commercial "this is your brain on drugs" keeps coming back to haunt me! Gary | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz The Catherine Austin Fitts Blog seems to be here site but I am so tired nothing is making much sense... Look sleepoingpill to knock me out since busy day tomorrow and aI am not seeing well or cohearent as sleep is kicking in..... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Well since this is not political and nobody hates Fox news. You go to Fox news. There is a place where you can do a video and post it. http://www.foxnews.com/us/ureport/index.html And if you go to Greta's Page you could probably get it on her blog. I 'm still looking to see if there is another way. http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/02/home-3/ Down on the right side you will find several topics listed that you can post in But that would put you down here with us intolerant,right wing ,tea party,racist wingnuts. Last edited by Slim Shavings; 11-02-2009 at 08:00 AM.. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Great letter Dave! I may have somewhere from my end that I can use this too with some modifications.
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Dave - you are wonderfully thorough and well-spoken. You are one of my gurus on this site. thank you! And Slim - if Fox or Greta will post this and doesn't put a negative spin about us - i.e. these homeowners deserve it - I would love to have it there as well. I'd even be okay with a jab at the Democrats (for I am no longer one I am an Independent). All of our politicians are at fault. This is going on now, and it has been going on for years. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Dave for a real estate agent blitz go to www.ActiveRain.com to locate Realtors. Here are some more media emails for you all. "Gretchen Morgenson" <gretchen@nytimes.com>, "Ted Butler" <tbutler@thedailyshow.com>, "Katz, David" <David.Katz@imb.com>, "Harris, Dan B" <Dan.B.Harris@abc.com>, "Danny Schechter" <danny@mediachannel.org>, <MMFlint@aol.com>, "Laise, Eleanor" <eleanor.laise@wsj.com>, <gina.green@responsiblelending.org>, <irvinerenter@irvinehousingblog.com>, "Karp, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Karp@wsj.com>, "Kathleen Doler" <kathleendoler@sbcglobal.net>, "ARI LEVY, BLOOMBERG/ NEWSROOM:" <alevy5@bloomberg.net>,
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz thanks Moe. I have copied all of those e-mails and will blast today or tomorrow. dave - if you blast and I blast and maybe others do too maybe they will listen. Now to go check to see how many signatures we have. |
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I'm pretty sure Greta would leave it alone as it is. And if it made news she would report it Fairly. There are a lot of people with money losing their homes that got regular loans. The problem I have is the thing calls for government involvement. More damn government. Government is what caused the problem by forcing the banks to make the loans. And the people got duped by the banks into thinking the banks cared. It would be better to me if the courts got more involved in throwing the mortgages out as they are doing with MERS Somebody convince me how the government is going to help and then get out of the way and I'll sign. But it always blooms into way more government control. | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Moe - THANK YOU for the post, great info and I am going to blas this morning, before I head to civil duty. Slim - Man, we feel your pain, and you are right in many respects. I have to ask you 1 simple question: 1. There is one way for the American public to make a LOUD statement to Banks and demand their change. That is for everyone to simply QUIT paying their mortgage. Okay, everyone might be too much to ask? How about 1/2 of us? 1/4? There are way to many homeowners out there that are struggling and not doing anything -- the banks will NEVER change this process on their own, too many of us are not willing to sacrifice what the individual would be required to sacrifice for this initiative. Thier home. Our only option is to ask for the government to get involved in the program that they started. That is our only hope to have a voice to America, and the more we get involved in this initiative, the more attention we will get, and the more opportunity we provide for people to save their homes. This requires MASS change. It took MASS fraud to get us here . . . Does that make sense? That's my best shot at talking you off the ledge on this argument. . . I respect your right to not sign. I ask you to sign because it's a small thing you can do in hope for a big change. Peace
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Okay here is what I sent to the above list of media contacts. Gina's email bounced back. Subject: Homeowners on Huffington Thank you for taking a moment to read my email. I wanted to let you know that a writer for Huffington Post has posted an article about the American Homeowner fight for his home. It features a petition to Congress to oversee the programs put into place by the government earlier this year, and also discusses the work of NACA. Let me also thank you, and your organization, for you dilligence and representation of Main Street. We know how hard you work on our behalf, and greatly appreciate your efforts. You give us hope and strength in a very difficult time. We would also be thankful if you would assist us in passing the word about the petition to give American Homeowners back their voice for needed change in the existing process, and if you would pass the Huffington article on -- be sure to leave a comment! Here are links to both. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richar..._b_342665.html http://www.petition2congress.com/2/2564/petition-to-us-government-from-american-homeowners/ Warm Regards, Melissa I also left my phone number, so Richard, if your phone starts ringing, today, it's all Moe's fault, I'm just the middle-man. But NOT like the mortgage servicers middle man. I'm a good guy! Next time I'm just going to leave YOUR phone number. . . eh hee!!!
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz mmflint, Jonathan, and Gina all failed to deliver, just FYI!. . . .
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That is a government of the people and by the people. Asking the government to do it for you is abdicating your responsibility. People are slaves of their FICO score. Just look at that on here. They don't realize its already ruined and don't mean anything anyhow. The tea parties and yesterdays elections prove that it can be done. I put the thing on two forums. One was conservative and the other was a financial forum. Nobody there would sign it. Its because once you open the door a crack to government they will bowl you over. Its proven. I'll just continue to fight in my own way I guess. | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: New York Times - Media Blitz Melissa - right on! I didn't get a chance to do anything yesterday. I'll try tonight. I want a halt to all foreclosures for people either in the process of getting a mod, with an ARM that is set to adjust, or who have lost a significant source of their income and are struggling. Then I want all of the above to get a 2% fixed 30 or 40 year mortgage. If that means a write-down, as well, so be it.
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