Old 10-30-2009, 08:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's a good one- IndyMac miscalculated my monthly net income by $5,000!

To make an extremely long (and probably familiar to many of you) story short, we owner-built a house using IndyMac construction-perm financing. In May of this year, we applied for a loan modification as my husband's hours were reduced and we have new financial hardships as a result of having a baby in February. This is how it's played out:
May: we are current on our loan, but see there is going to be a problem. We submit all docs, hear nothing back.

June: call to check up, the rep says they LOST our personal docs during a move and we would need to resubmit and go to the bottom of the review list. Rep says no need to resubmit tax returns, just the 4506. We resubmit the package and 4506

August: once again have heard nothing back. Call IndyMac and they say nothing has been reviewed because we didn't submit a tax return. We tell them we were told not to submit a tax return. They say too bad, resubmit everything and go back to the bottom of the pile b/c our pay stubs are now out of date. We resubmit everything. We try to refi through another company but the appraisal comes in $40k below our note.

August: file a complaint with the Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS), who then contacts IndyMac.

September 1: IndyMac responds and says they're sorry that we think they are not being held accountable for their misinformation, but too bad. Also, we don't qualify for a mod because we have FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IN DISPOSABLE INCOME PER MONTH. I get all excited for about 30 seconds until I remember that I DON'T have any disposable income and that my mortgage company has made an egregious math error somewhere along the way.

September 3: receive a denial on our mod request. OTS closes our case based on the misinformation from IndyMac. We write back to IndyMac letting them know their math sucks. Submit an appeal with OTS.

October 1: we don't pay our mortgage

October 27: talk to Consumer Credit Counseling Svcs, who says we qualify through MHA and gives us the number for IndyMac loss mitigation. I call them and they say oops, we miscalculated your income, but you'll have to reapply anyways and wait another 30-60 days.

October 30: call IndyMac again and try a different tack- I politely ask for a 2% interest rate and 40 yr amortization. They say I will need to reapply again. They also tell me I was denied in September due to income too high. I explained again about the little math error they made, they deny it.

We are so over this. We have tried to do everything right, only to hit a brick wall every time. I truly appreciate all of you who have shared your stories, it makes me feel a lot less alone!


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Old 10-30-2009, 08:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Caralyn, I'm sorry to hear about your struggle with Indymac. If you want to keep your home, keep calling and faxing posting and do not give up. The fight to protect our homes is gaining momentum and we won't stop until the last home is saved.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:50 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Here's a good one- IndyMac miscalculated my monthly net income by $5,000!

Same here. Literally! $5000 error on gross income not once but 3X. First 5000 short, then 5000 over and then 5000 short again. They use this 5000 dollar error to keep denying my mod.
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Re: Here's a good one- IndyMac miscalculated my monthly net income by $5,000!

Darkdays. Hey im with you on the error on gross income. I make 2300 a month but the calculated in my on time supplement bonus for not getting a rise last year and my overtime i got for one of my co-workers being sick that I rarely get. So by my year to date income was high they calculated my income a few months ago by 12.They got 2900 wich is incorrect due to I dont get overtime all the time or the one time supplement all the time. My modification was approved with wrong info.
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Darkdays. Hey im with you on the error on gross income. I make 2300 a month but the calculated in my on time supplement bonus for not getting a rise last year and my overtime i got for one of my co-workers being sick that I rarely get. So by my year to date income was high they calculated my income a few months ago by 12.They got 2900 wich is incorrect due to I dont get overtime all the time or the one time supplement all the time. My modification was approved with wrong info.
No my situation is even simpler than that. They first did not add the income in at all, then they added the same number into the system twice. Those two times were not even "miscalculations" on their part just down right deceptive behavior. The third time is more similar to your situation where we have a dispute as to the way they calculated it. They only gave me credit for 20% of the $5K. Another rep said that was wrong they should have given me credit for 75% of the $5K and now escalation tells me they should have given me 100% of the $5K if I can supply documentation. Don't give up arguing your calculation argument.
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Re: Here's a good one- IndyMac miscalculated my monthly net income by $5,000!

That is the best news to start my morning! That is great! When are you being heard on the TRO, 10 days? Did you have to put up a bond or did they waive it since the temporary will expire in about 2 weeks? I bet Indymac reviews your file real fast now. Did you ever get a trial mod?
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Hang in there and don't let them wear you down. If your house is worth fighting for -- then you are on the right path.

There are posts under "Homeowner Party" listed by state, with state and federal contact information; if your state's information is there, communicate with all of these folks to get some additional love. . . .

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My Firm just stopped IndyMac in its tracks with a TRO for not offering a mod to a qualified homeowner...ModifyMyHousePayment.Com
Saw your other posts and just realized you are just here to promote your company. No need to reply to any of my questions.
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Re: Here's a good one- IndyMac miscalculated my monthly net income by $5,000!

Today is officially my second month of nonpayments... We'll see if anything changes! We are planning to resubmit a mod package this month.
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