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    More Unemployment

    More unemployment

    http://www.ajc.com/business/economy-...rm-226579.html
    Good? Or even hopeful?

    Economy 101: Long-term unemployment worsens
    By CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER

    WASHINGTON — Within the vast pool of 15.4 million unemployed workers, a split is emerging: The number of long-term jobless — those out of work six months or longer — is growing, while the number of short-term unemployed is declining.

    The trend highlights a considerable challenge for the economy and policymakers: finding a way for the millions of Americans laid off last fall and early this year to get back to work.

    The data, buried in Friday's unemployment report, are stark: The number of Americans out of work for 27 weeks or more reached 5.9 million last month, the most on records dating from 1948. That's 18 percent more than just three months ago, when the total was just below 5 million.

    The tally of those out of work for 14 weeks or less, however, has dropped to 6.3 million from 7.1 million in August, a decline of about 11 percent.

    Looking at it another way, the long-term jobless now make up 38.3 percent of the unemployed population, not that far from the 41.1 percent accounted for by those out of work for 14 weeks or less. (The rest are in the 15-to-26 weeks bracket.)

    That's a sharp change from August, when the short-term unemployed made up nearly half the total, while the longer-term jobless were only a third.

    In some ways, the dichotomy is good news, in that it reflects a slowdown in layoffs. The Labor Department said Friday that employers cut a net total of 11,000 jobs in November, down from 111,000 the previous month. The unemployment rate dropped to 10 percent from 10.2 percent in October, the first decline since July.

    That gives analysts hope the economy could begin generating jobs in the next few months, after shedding 7.2 million in the past two years.

    Still, "new hiring may not be picking up all that much," said Lawrence Mishel, president of the Economic Policy Institute, a liberal think tank. "So what you're seeing is less people thrown into unemployment."

    And without more jobs, the long-term unemployment problem is likely to linger. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has expressed concern that people caught in long spells of unemployment could see their skills atrophy.

    "It really is the most difficult challenge facing us," he said in testimony to a Senate panel Thursday.

    Here, by the numbers, are some more details you can find deep in the employment report.

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    LESS THAN ZERO, BUT GETTING CLOSER

    11,000: The net total of jobs lost in November

    111,000: Jobs lost in October

    139,000: Jobs lost in September

    691,000: Average monthly loss in first three months of this year

    7.2 million: Total decline in U.S. payrolls since recession began in December 2007

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    UNEMPLOYMENT STILL HIGH

    10 percent: November's unemployment rate, in double digits for only the second time in 26 years

    10.2 percent: October's jobless rate, the highest since April 1983

    10.8 percent: Unemployment rate in December 1982, the highest since World War II

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    WHERE THE JOBS ARE

    52,400: The number of temporary jobs added in November, the biggest increase in five years

    11,100: Jobs added in education

    21,000: Jobs added in hospitals, nursing and other health care sectors

    1,000: Jobs added in computer services

    5,600: Jobs added in management and technical consulting

    7,500: Jobs added in department stores

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    UNDEREMPLOYED

    9.2 million: Number of part-time workers who would have preferred full-time work last month

    2.3 million: People without jobs who want to work but have stopped looking

    17.2 percent: "Underemployment" rate in November if you include the above two categories

    17.5 percent: Underemployment rate in October, the highest in records dating to 1994

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    THE "HE-CESSION"

    10.5 percent: Unemployment rate for adult men

    7.9 percent: Unemployment rate for adult women

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    NOVEMBER UNEMPLOYMENT RATE BY GROUP

    11.4 percent: Female heads of households

    7.3 percent: Asians

    9.3 percent: Whites

    12.7 percent: Hispanics

    15.6 percent: Blacks

    26.7 percent: Teenagers

    Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press.

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    Re: More Unemployment

    I have a feeling we're going to hit or surpass the 10.8% 1982 un-employment rate shortly after the Christmas season, thanks for posting all the numbers Jewls.

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    "52,400: The number of temporary jobs added in November, the biggest increase in five years "

    Most of these are seasonal / part time for the holiday shopping season.
    They will be gone by Jan.5th'09 !
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    Re: More Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by yomann View Post
    "52,400: The number of temporary jobs added in November, the biggest increase in five years "

    Most of these are seasonal / part time for the holiday shopping season.
    They will be gone by Jan.5th'09 !
    Yep, And I think they're fudging that new 10% number to get more people out Christmas shopping.

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    Re: More Unemployment

    Quote Originally Posted by yomann View Post
    "52,400: The number of temporary jobs added in November, the biggest increase in five years "

    Most of these are seasonal / part time for the holiday shopping season.
    They will be gone by Jan.5th'09 !
    01/05/2010 You Mean...lol

    But yea things are no different here in the east Coast, PA has had more Layoffs last 2 months than in the last year...

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    Unemployment is on the rise again and the Christmas season isn't even over yet: Jobless Claims Rise Again - ABC News

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    Re: More Unemployment

    Let's not forget that the numbers posted only reflect those that are still receiving benefits. There's thousands of people who have ran out of benefits and are no longer being counted.

    This month has been horrible for the company that I work for. Many of our clients simply do not have the money to invest in anything right now. Some owe us money and simply cannot pay.

    The February 2010 numbers are going to show a huge increase in unemployment due to the temporary seasonal jobs ending.

    What really ticks me off is the serious disconnect between the stock market and what's really going on with the economy. The stock market seems to climb every time there's bad news. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzGryffindor View Post
    The stock market seems to climb every time there's bad news. Why?
    Donald Trump said the same thing on Larry King the other day. Something is going on and it doesn't make sense to him either.

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    I agree 100% they aren't counting the people that are still unemployed but are no longer receiving any benefits... My husband is one of those thousands still out of a job that cant get any help. WE are of course facing foreclosure do to this mess. Try being 42 fighting for you home and a job with all those people out there, college kids, massive amounts of applications for every job. Every job he is qualified for there are 200-1000 applicants. For those few jobs he gets an interview for they get to the last interview, he will is one of two remaining candidates, and they tell him, we would like to hire you, you are more qualified and we really are impressed with you but we are going with the other candidate because we feel we wont be able to keep you at this pay... He tells them he wants the job and accepts the pay range and wants to work for them with the hopes to grow in their company... but no luck... this has happened the last 3 jobs... Why do they even waste his time or get his hopes up... we are desperately trying to save our house...

    WE have two professionals in the house with only one employed and the other one with no hopes of ever getting employed again.... Two kids in college that will face the same diminished job market when they graduate, huge student loans and we will soon have no where to live.

    WHY >?

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