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This is a discussion on Out of Luck in AZ within the Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure - Do You Need Help to Walk Away? forums, part of the Stop Foreclosure and Tell Us Your Story category; Hi everyone - great forum! I just wanted to run my situation by you and see if you think I'm ...
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Out of Luck in AZ Hi everyone - great forum! I just wanted to run my situation by you and see if you think I'm as hosed as I think I am... I built my house in 2002 for $232k in the Phoenix suburbs. In late 2005 did a refi for $274k at 5.75% fixed to consolidate some debts and lower my interest rate. In early 2006 the house had a market value of about $480k. Sitting on approximately $200k of home equity at that time, I got laid off, and I decided God had opened a door for me to go back to grad school, so I opened a $150k HELOC and went to grad school full-time. So here's what I told myself at that time: "Things have been appreciating at 20% a year or more, which can't continue. People are saying we will drop back to maybe 5% a year appreciation, but I'm going to assume 0%, totally flat housing values. Even under that 'worst-case' scenario (or so I thought at the time), even if I max out my HELOC before finishing my PhD, I will have $50k of home equity, enough to cover closing costs and moving expenses at the end of it." Well, obviously I wasn't nearly pessimistic enough, even though I was being more pessimistic than everyone around me. Now here's where I am: Mortgage balance: $260k (bank) HELOC balance: $106k (large credit union) Market value: about $285k, if I could even find a buyer. I will finish grad school and WILL have to move, in about 8 months. My field is one in which I WILL be able to find employment, but it will not be in the Phoenix area. Neither of these loans were "purchase money". So it would appear to me that the anti-deficiency laws don't apply to me, and I am on the hook for $366k of debt and have a house that will net me about $100k less than that (best case). Does that match what you read into my situation? My family and I have student loans, but no other debt of any kind. We are current on all our bills, mainly because of using the HELOC to pay them (including using the HELOC to make payments on the first loan and on the HELOC itself). My FICO score is an awesome 783 at the moment. We have no other liquid assets, just an IRA with $100k in it. Our personal property consists of two cars, and a house full of the usual crap. No other real estate or boats or fancy toys. After the move, there is almost no way I will be able to pay the $3500 a month it will take me to hold onto this place PLUS whatever it costs us to live in the new place, without MAJOR family hardship as a result. Maybe I could try to rent this house, for $1500-$2000 a month, but getting renters isn't certain these days. So... what can I expect to happen to me? Any friendly advice? I will be consulting an attorney in a few weeks, so there's no need to tell me to see an attorney. I can see lots of options. Things like... 1. Let the lenders foreclose, and probably be pursued for years until the $100k is collected. 2. Try to negotiate a short sale, to which the credit union would never agree, I suspect. 3. Try to negotiate a DIL, which my credit union would find equally unappealing. 4. Try to keep paying for the house until it is worth enough for me to sell it, in maybe 10 years. 5. Try to borrow $100k or more from parents or other family to get out from under this house, and offer to pay them 7-8% interest so they get a decent return while allowing me to preserve my credit. No matter what option I take, I am looking at having to rent my next home, because we will have no money for a down payment (whether our credit is good or bad at that time). Thanks in advance for any comments. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ 1st off good move on the attorney!!! 2nd there was a AZ case that I believe went all the way to the AZ Supreme Court where the borrower had refi'ed and taken equity and was still covered by the non recourse laws. That case and a link have been posted here but I can't find it. So please follow up with what your attorney advises. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ I can't find that case reference either. It would be great if it were true, but I seem to be finding quite a bit of evidence pointing the other direction. Anyone else have any info? |
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LEXSEE BANK ONE, ARIZONA, N.A., formerly known as THE VALLEY NATIONAL BANK OF ARIZONA, a national banking association, Plaintiff, Counterdefendant-Appellant, Cross Appellee. v. EDWARD R. BEAUVAIS and MARY ELLEN BEAUVAIS, husband and wife, Defendants, Counterclaimants-Appellees, Cross Ap-pellants. 1 CA-CV 96-0301 COURT OF APPEALS OF ARIZONA, DIVISION ONE, DEPARTMENT C 188 Ariz. 245; 934 P.2d 809; 1997 Ariz. App. LEXIS 39; 239 Ariz. Adv. Rep. 13 March 18, 1997, Filed PRIOR HISTORY: [***1] Appeal from the Superior Court of Maricopa County. Cause No. CV 93-26706. The Honorable Silvia R. Arellano, Judge. DISPOSITION: AFFIRMED. COUNSEL: Johnston, Maynard, Grant & Parker, P.L.C., by Frank L. Murray, Michael D. Curran, Attorneys for Appel-lant/Cross Appellee, Phoenix. Terry A. Dake, Ltd., by Terry A. Dake, Attorney for Appellees/Cross Appellants, Phoenix. JUDGES: SARAH D. GRANT, Judge. CONCURRING: JON W. THOMPSON, Presiding Judge, THOMAS C. KLEINSCHMIDT, Judge. OPINION BY: SARAH D. GRANT OPINION [*246] [**810] OPINION GRANT, Judge In this appeal, we must decide whether the extension, renewal or refinancing of a purchase-money loan transformed the renewed or new loan into a non-purchase-money obligation. We hold that under the facts of this case, the trial court correctly held that the renewed or new loan retained its character as a purchase-money note. FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY In 1988, appellees Edward R. and Mary Ellen Beauvais ("the Beauvais") obtained [***2] a $ 75,000 loan ("the 1988 loan") from appellant Bank One ("the Bank"). The loan proceeds were used to exercise options on 30,000 shares of America West Airlines stock. The 30,000 shares were pledged as collateral for the 1988 loan. In 1989, the Beauvais applied to the Bank for a loan needed for the purchase of their new home. The Bank agreed to loan the Beauvais $ 240,000. On March 29, 1989, the 1988 loan and the $ 240,000 loan were consolidated into a sin-gle promissory note of $ 315,000 ("the consolidated loan"). The Bank records show that $ 75,000 of the consolidated loan was used to pay off the 1988 loan and $ 240,000 was used to purchase the Beauvais' residence. The consolidated loan was secured by the 30,000 shares of America West stock and a second-position deed of trust on the Beauvais' new residence. The Beauvais made principal payments of about $ 125,000 on the consolidated loan. However, they were unable to pay off the remaining $ 190,000 in March 1992, as called for in the note. The Beauvais executed a promissory note dated June 1, 1992, in the amount of $ 190,000 ("the workout note"); they describe this note as an extension of the 1989 consolidated loan. Both in correspondence [***3] when the workout note was executed, and at a later deposition, bank officials characterized the note as a "subsequent renewal" of the $ 315,000 note, and as a note to "extend" the 1988 loan. Bank records, however, show the $ 190,000 remainder of the consolidated loan as being paid off with the workout loan proceeds. In this case, the Bank takes the position that the workout note was for a workout loan. The 1992 workout note lists additional stock and the deed of trust dated March 29, 1989, which was a second-position lien on the Beauvais' residence, as the security for the note. The Beauvais made monthly principal payments of $ 3,000 in July, August, and September of 1992. At the Beau-vais' request, in October 1992, the parties entered into a modification agreement by which the Bank agreed to waive the $ 3,000 principal payments to be made in November and December of 1992, and January of 1993, in exchange for a $ 32,676.24 principal reduction to be made by October 8, 1992. The parties agreed that the proceeds for the principal re-duction payment came from a sale of the America West stock which was part of the security for the workout note. The Beauvais failed to make any further [***4] monthly payments required by the workout note. In December 1993, the Bank sued the [**811] [*247] Beauvais on the consolidated loan. It alleged that a principal balance of more than $ 144,000 was owed on the note. However, the Bank sought only the principal amount of $ 75,000 plus interest, which it characterized as the non-purchase-money portion of the note. The Bank filed a Motion for Summary Judgment, arguing that it was entitled to payment of the $ 75,000 because it was a non-purchase-money loan and thus was not affected by the anti-deficiency provision of Arizona Revised Statutes An-notated ("A.R.S.") section 33-729(A). 1 The trial court found that there was no support in the loan documents, statutes, or case law for the Bank's request to bifurcate the 1989 consolidated loan into purchase-money and non-purchase-money components. The trial court also noted that the Bank's representative had testified that there was no manner for either the bifurcation of the loan or the apportionment of the proceeds to occur. Pointing out that the Bank had raised argu-ments concerning the workout note, although it had not sued on that note, the court denied the Bank's Motion for Sum-mary Judgment and allowed [***5] it to amend its complaint to sue on the workout note and to specifically allege enti-tlement to relief under the workout loan. 1 A "purchase money mortgage" for purposes of Arizona's anti-deficiency statutes is one that encumbers the property being sold. Cely v. DeConcini, McDonald, Brammer, Yetwin & Lacy, P.C., 166 Ariz. 500, 505, 803 P.2d 911, 916 (App. 1990). After the Bank filed its Amended Complaint, the Beauvais filed a counterclaim alleging that if the remainder of the 1989 consolidated loan had been paid off by the workout loan, as the Bank alleged and admitted in its complaint, their security for the 1989 loan had been extinguished, and thus the Bank had wrongfully enforced its extinguished lien by forcing the sale of stock and had thereby wrongfully converted proceeds from the liquidated stock. The Beauvais sought damages for the loss of the stock and for loss of their house to foreclosure under the first deed of trust. The Beauvais alleged that the foreclosure occurred because the Bank would not [***6] release its lien so that the Beauvais could sell the house before it was sold through foreclosure. The Bank again moved for summary judgment. It argued that the workout note was not a purchase-money obliga-tion because the note evidenced a new loan made three years after the Beauvais purchased their home, and it was used to pay off existing obligations, rather than to purchase a residence that would fall within the scope of the anti-deficiency statute. Alternatively, the Bank argued that it was entitled to be paid $ 31,643.45, plus interest, which represented the pro rata portion of the amount owing under the workout note attributed to the non-purchase-money part of the loan. The Bank also moved for summary judgment in its favor on the counterclaim, arguing that the Beauvais acknowledged the validity of the existing liens in the modification agreement, and they provided a full release to the Bank of any existing claims. The trial court found that the workout loan was an extension of the 1989 consolidated loan and thus that it was a purchase-money, non-recourse note and that the Bank had no cognizable action under A.R.S. section 33-814(E). The court renewed its prior finding [***7] that the evidence in the record did not provide a method by which the workout loan could be apportioned between purchase-money and non-purchase-money components. Therefore, the court denied the Bank's Motion for Summary Judgment on its complaint and granted its Motion for Summary Judgment on the coun-terclaim. Based on the trial court's ruling, the Beauvais moved for summary judgment on the complaint. The trial court granted the Beauvais' motion and entered judgment dismissing the complaint and counterclaim. The Bank timely ap-pealed from the judgment, and the Beauvais filed a cross-appeal from the dismissal of their counterclaim. This court has jurisdiction pursuant to A.R.S. section 12-120.21(A)(1). ISSUES The issues in this appeal are: I. Whether, under the facts of this case, Arizona's anti-deficiency protections apply [**812] [*248] to prevent the Bank from enforcing its right to obtain payment under a workout loan note secured by a second-position lien on the same residence owned by the debtor which had secured the initial note and by other collateral security. II. Whether the trial court properly denied the Beauvais' counterclaim against the Bank for conversion. DISCUSSION A. [***8] Does the Anti-Deficiency Statute Apply to the Workout Note? On appeal, the Bank argues that the workout note evidenced a new loan that was not an obligation incurred in con-nection with the purchase of the residence. It contends that the workout note was motivated by the Beauvais' desire to ease the terms of their 1989 consolidated loan and that the note evidencing the 1989 loan was extinguished by the workout loan. The Bank thus concludes that the workout note is a new and independent obligation separate and distinct from the initial purchase-money loan such that the workout note must be considered a non-purchase money obligation. 2 2 The Bank has made no argument on appeal concerning bifurcation of the 1992 note and collection of the non-purchase money portion of the note. Therefore, we do not consider this issue that was raised in the trial court. But see Nestle Ice Cream Co. v. Fuller, 186 Ariz. 521, 924 P.2d 1040 (App. 1996) (In a foreclosure on real property to pay a promissory note, if the creditor obtained assets of the debtor through involuntary means, the creditor must apply liquidation amounts ratably to the secured indebtedness.). [***9] The Beauvais respond that the facts show that the workout note was an extension of the 1989 consolidated note. Accordingly, they argue that the loan continued as a purchase-money obligation protected by the Anti-Deficiency Statutes. In any event, they contend it is contrary to the intent of the Anti-Deficiency Statutes to subject homeowners who refinance their mortgages to deficiency judgments. We first note that the parties' arguments show that there is a fact dispute concerning whether the workout loan was either an extension or renewal of the 1989 loan, or was a new loan. The record contains evidence to support both theo-ries. Thus, the trial court's decision on summary judgment concerning the nature of the workout loan involves disputed facts that render the question a matter for a trier of fact. Ariz. R. Civ. P. 56(c). However, because we conclude that the ultimate legal result is the same whether the workout note is an extension, renewal, or new obligation, we are deciding the question of law that will resolve this case, rather than remanding for a trier-of-fact decision on the nature of the workout transaction. The legal question we consider is whether, under the facts of [***10] this case, the workout note was a non-purchase-money note under which the Bank could waive the security, sue on the note, obtain a judgment and then at-tempt to satisfy the judgment from assets of the Beauvais other than the property which is subject to the deed of trust. This question is one of first impression in Arizona, but we are guided by the Arizona Supreme Court's decision in Baker v. Gardner, 160 Ariz. 98, 770 P.2d 766 (1988). In Baker, the court considered the interplay of Arizona's Anti-Deficiency and Election of Remedies Statutes, A.R.S. section 33-729(A), which concerns purchase-money mortgages; A.R.S. section 33-814(E) (now A.R.S. section 33-814(G)), concerning deeds of trust; and A.R.S. section 33-722, which allows creditors to elect remedies. 3 The [**813] [*249] Baker court concluded that when a deed of trust is involved, and A.R.S. section 33-814(G) applies, the anti-deficiency provision prevents a creditor from waiving the security and bringing an action on the note. 160 Ariz. at 104, 770 P.2d at 772. 3 A.R.S. section 33-729(A) provides in relevant part: If a mortgage is given to secure the payment of the balance of the purchase price, or to secure a loan to pay all or part of the purchase price, of a parcel of real property of two and one-half acres or less which is limited to and utilized for either a single one-family or single two-family dwell-ing, the lien of judgment in an action to foreclose such mortgage shall not extend to any other property of the judgment debtor, nor may general execution be issued against the judgment debtor to enforce such judgment, and if the proceeds of the mortgaged real property sold under special execution are insufficient to satisfy the judgment, the judgment may not otherwise be satisfied out of other property of the judgment debtor, notwithstanding any agreement to the contrary. A.R.S. section 33-814(G) provides: If trust property of two and one-half acres or less which is limited to and utilized for either a single one-family or single two-family dwelling is sold pursuant to the trustee's power of sale, no action may be maintained to recover any difference between the amount obtained by sale and the amount of the indebtedness and any interest, costs and expenses. A.R.S. section 33-722 reads: If separate actions are brought on the debt and to foreclose the mortgage given to secure it, the plaintiff shall elect which to prosecute and the other shall be dismissed. [***11] In a supplemental opinion, the Baker court clarified its initial holding. 160 Ariz. at 105-07, 770 P.2d at 773-75. It addressed the question of whether, under Baker, creditors who made non-purchase-money loans secured by deeds of trust were prohibited from waiving the security and suing on the note pursuant to A.R.S. section 33-722. The court noted that the mortgage Anti-Deficiency Statute, A.R.S. section 33-729(A), only applies to purchase-money mort-gages, but the deed of trust Anti-Deficiency Statute, A.R.S. section 33-814(G), is not limited to purchase-money collat-eral. 160 Ariz. at 106, 770 P.2d at 774. However, the Baker court concluded that if a deed of trust beneficiary chooses to foreclose judicially, as is done with a mortgage, the creditor can elect to waive the security under A.R.S. section 33-722 and sue on the note. Id. at 107, 770 P.2d at 775. Accordingly, stated the court, "by choosing judicial foreclosure, the creditor can obtain a deficiency judgment in all cases except those dealing with purchase-money collateral on the residential property described in A.R.S. § 33-729(A)." Id.; Citibank v. Bhandhusavee, 188 Ariz. 434, 1996 Ariz. App. LEXIS 239, 229 Ariz. Adv. Rep. 10, 937 P.2d 356 (1996) [***12] (A creditor's failure to comply with the requirements of A.R.S. section 33-814 does not bar enforcement of a judgment by garnishment against the debtor's nonexempt earn-ings.). In Resolution Trust Corp. v. Segel, 173 Ariz. 42, 839 P.2d 462 (App. 1992), we examined the impact of the Baker hold-ing on non-purchase-money loans that were secured by second-position deeds of trust on residential property of less than two and one-half acres with a one- or two-family residence. In Segel, the court held that because the lender did not institute trustee's sale proceedings and the deeds of trust secured non-purchase-money obligations, the lender was enti-tled to waive its security and sue directly on the notes under A.R.S. section 33-722. Id. at 44-45, 839 P.2d at 464-65. As can be seen from Baker and Segel, a decisive question in determining the rights of a creditor when a deed of trust is involved is whether the collateral secures a purchase-money or non-purchase-money obligation. Therefore, in this case, the characterization of the workout note as purchase-money or non-purchase-money is the key to determining whether the Bank may maintain its action on the note. [***13] To aid in our assessment of the note, we look to the public policy pronouncements of the Arizona Su-preme Court in Baker. In examining the legislative objectives behind the Anti-Deficiency Statutes, the Baker court noted that the statutes created the "direct benefit of . . . the elimination of hardships resulting to consumers who, when purchasing a home, fail to realize the extent to which they are subjecting assets besides the home to legal process." 160 Ariz. at 101, 770 P.2d at 769 (quoting Boyd & Balentine, Arizona's Consumer Legislation: Winning the Battle but . . ., 14 ARIZ. L. REV. 627, 654 (1972)). The court read both A.R.S. sections 33-729(A) and 33-814(G), "as evincing the legislature's desire to protect certain homeowners from the financial disaster of losing their homes to foreclosure plus all their other nonexempt property on execution of a judgment for the balance of the purchase price." Baker, 160 Ariz. at 101, 770 P.2d at 769. In reaching its holding, the court concluded that the legislature's objective in enacting the Anti-Deficiency Statute was to abolish the personal liability of persons who give trust deeds encumbering properties that fit within [***14] the statutory definition. Id. at 104, 770 P.2d at 772. Given these strong statements concerning the legislature's consumer protection objective, [**814] [*250] we be-lieve the legislature did not intend that a loan would lose its character as a purchase-money obligation when, as here, it is extended, renewed, or the remaining portion of the original loan is refinanced and the deed of trust on the property that was bought with the original loan continues or is renewed. Given the realities of the marketplace, to believe other-wise would put many homeowners, unable to make mortgage payments, at the peril of facing personal liability as well as the loss of their homes -- a result the legislature intended to avoid through the Anti-Deficiency Statutes. Here, the majority of the original loan was used as part of the purchase price for residential property of less than two and one-half acres used for a single-family dwelling. A deed of trust on the property secured the loan. Although a portion of the 1989 consolidated loan was non-purchase-money, the Bank no longer argues that the loan can be bifur-cated; thus, we consider the entire loan to be a purchase-money obligation. The workout note was for the [***15] bal-ance remaining at that time on the purchase-money note; no additional funds were added to the loan. The note continued to be secured by the deed of trust on the property. Accordingly, we conclude that the workout note retained its character as a purchase-money note. The Bank cites cases from California and North Carolina to support its argument that the workout note became a non-purchase money note. Cases from these states may be helpful to us because in reaching its decision, the Baker court cited cases from California and North Carolina, 4 noting that their Anti-Deficiency Statutes are similar to Arizona's. 160 Ariz. at 103-04, 770 P.2d at 771-72. Contrary to the Bank's contentions, however, we believe that the case law from those states supports our holding here. 4 The Arizona Supreme Court acknowledged in Baker v. Gardner that Arizona's Anti-Deficiency Statutes are similar to California's Anti-Deficiency Statutes set forth in section 580 of the California Code of Civil Proce-dure. 160 Ariz. at 102, 770 P.2d at 770. [***16] The Bank cites Bigley v. Lombardo, 90 N.C. App. 79, 367 S.E.2d 389 (1988), in which the court held that the Anti-Deficiency Statute did not apply to a promissory note which had replaced a purchase-money security deed and was secured by an automobile. However, the facts of Bigley are distinguishable from the facts before us. There, the original loan was for the purchase of a business, including the real property on which the business was located. Id. at 80, 367 S.E.2d at 390. Under North Carolina law, the buyers executed a purchase-money promissory note secured by a deed of trust on the property. Id. The sellers subsequently agreed to cancel the purchase-money promissory note and deed of trust so that one of the buyers could borrow money on the business and real property and buy out the other own-ers. Id. That buyer executed a new promissory note to the sellers that was secured by his automobile. Id. The first note was marked "paid in full and satisfied," and the record of the deed of trust was canceled. Id. The Bigley court held that because the new security agreement did not secure any portion of the original purchase of real property and the purchase-money [***17] deed of trust was canceled, the second note was not a purchase-money note, and therefore the statutory anti-deficiency protection did not apply. 90 N.C. App. at 84, 367 S.E.2d at 392. The court, however, noted that "so long as the debt of the purchaser of property is secured by a deed of trust on the property or part of it given by the purchaser to secure payment of the purchase price the deed of trust is a purchase-money deed of trust." Id. (emphasis added in Bigley) (quoting Burnette Indus., Inc. v. Danbar of Winston-Salem, Inc., 80 N.C. App. 318, 321, 341 S.E.2d 754, 756 (1986)). The Bank also cites Union Bank v. Wendland, 54 Cal. App. 3d 393, 126 Cal. Rptr. 549 (1976). There, Wendland had purchased a residence in 1966 for the sum of $ 26,500 and borrowed the money from a savings and loan. Id. at 396, 126 Cal. Rptr. at 552. In 1967, he borrowed $ 28,000 from Union Bank's predecessor to pay off the original loan. Id. The bank loan was secured by a first position deed of trust. Id. The Wendland court held that under this scenario, the bank loan was not a purchase-money loan and the purchase-money protections afforded by section 580b [**815] [*251] of the California [***18] Code of Civil Procedure did not apply. Id. at 400, 126 Cal. Rptr. at 554. Although on its face Wendland appears to support the Bank's argument, a close reading shows that it is distinguish-able. Section 580b prohibited deficiency judgments after a sale of real property under a deed of trust given to the prop-erty seller to secure payment of the purchase price of the property. 54 Cal. App. 3d at 398, 126 Cal. Rptr. at 553, n.2. The Wendland court found that section 580b was inapplicable because the first deed of trust was not given as security for the purchase money within the meaning of section 580b. Id. at 398, 126 Cal. Rptr. at 553. That was so because a loan transaction with a bank was a transaction that did not come within the purpose of section 580b, which was to pro-tect purchasers under purchase-money mortgage transactions in which the seller of real property retained an interest in the land sold to secure payment of part of the purchase price. Id. The court then analyzed the case under section 580d, the more general Anti-Deficiency Statute, and, based on a merger theory, reversed the judgment for the bank. Id. at 405, 126 Cal. Rptr. at 558. Two California [***19] cases more recent than Wendland refute the Bank's argument. The issue in Palm v. Schil-ling, 199 Cal. App. 3d 63, 244 Cal. Rptr. 600 (1988), was whether the prohibition against deficiency judgments could be contractually waived as a condition of renegotiation of the obligation. In holding that it could not be waived in the circumstances presented, the Palm court stated: As the Supreme Court observed decades ago, "with purchase money trust deeds, [][sic] the character of the transaction must necessarily be determined at the time the trust deed is executed. Its nature is then fixed for all time and as so fixed no deficiency judgment may be obtained regardless of whether the secu-rity later becomes valueless." . . . Renegotiation of a purchase money note, whether viewed as a renewal or a new transaction, will not support a waiver because section 580b prohibits a waiver in advance of or at the time of the creation of a purchase money mortgage. The explicit language of section 580b brooks no interpretation other than that deficiency judgments are prohibited by a purchase money mortgagee so long as a purchase money mortgage or deed of trust is in effect on [***20] the original real property. (Citation omitted.) Id. at 75-76, 244 Cal. Rptr. at 609. Similarly, the court in Ziegler v. Barnes, 200 Cal. App. 3d 224, 246 Cal. Rptr. 69 (1988), concluded that a new $ 95,000 promissory note that replaced a $ 185,000 purchase-money note was merely a substitute for the original note, even though it was for a lower amount that reflected payments made, and thus that the character of the money due had not changed. Id. at 230-31, 246 Cal. Rptr. at 72-73. The fact that the note added payees also did not change its character. Id. at 230, 246 Cal. Rptr. at 72. Therefore, the court held that the creditor was not entitled to a deficiency judgment. Id. In summary, we hold that regardless of whether the workout note was an extension, renewal, or refinancing of the 1989 consolidated loan, it retained its character as a purchase-money note. See Lucky Invs., Inc. v. Adams, 183 Cal. App. 2d 462, 7 Cal. Rptr. 57 (1960) (Cancellation and replacement with new notes, secured by the same property, trans-fers purchase-money status to new notes.). Accordingly, the Bank is prohibited from waiving the security under the deed of trust and suing [***21] on the note. We affirm the trial court's dismissal of the Bank's complaint. B. Dismissal of the Counterclaim The Beauvais' counterclaim can be maintained only if there is a finding that the security for the 1989 consolidated loan did not continue for the workout note. Our disposition of the primary question in this appeal leaves no basis for the counterclaim. Therefore, we affirm the trial court's dismissal of the counterclaim. C. Attorneys' Fees The Beauvais request an award of their attorneys' fees incurred on appeal. However, they cite no basis for their re-quest. Therefore, we deny the request. See Ariz. [**816] [*252] R. Civ. App. P. 21(c); City of Phoenix v. Maricopa County Superior Court, 144 Ariz. 172, 177, 696 P.2d 724, 729 (App. 1985) (denying request for attorneys' fees where no authority for such award cited). SARAH D. GRANT, Judge CONCURRING: JON W. 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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ I'll wait until I talk to the lawyer to be sure, but... Sadly, reading the existing laws and court cases carefully leads me to believe that while my first loan is likely protected against deficiency judgment, my HELOC is probably not. My home value is slightly in excess of the balance on the first loan, so the fact that I am protected against a deficiency judgment on that loan really doesn't help at all. Rather, it looks like after I move away, I may have to try to rent it out, work a second job to cover the difference between rental income and carrying costs, and wait until the day I owe less than the sum of my two loans. My projections indicate that will be somewhere between 5 and 10 years after I move away. There's nothing more thrilling than the prospect of being a landlord from 1000 miles away, on a house in which I have negative equity and negative cash flow! Oh well, at least my 783 FICO would remain intact... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ Hi Kevin - If the Deed of Trust was "purchase money", the answer to your question is "yes". If, like my HELOC, the deed of trust is not purchase money, the supplemental opinion to the "Baker v. Gardner" ruling states that the lender CAN obtain a deficiency judgment. Of course, maybe this would be a nice time for our AZ legislators to pass a new law clarifying and extending the anti-deficiency protection to cover me... :-) Argh. I mean, here's my situation, and apparently I'm NOT protected by the anti-deficiency statutes: At a time when my home was worth about $450k, I refinanced with a $274k fixed-rate loan and took out a $150k HELOC for a total of $424k of loans. On the other hand, if I had SOLD this house to some insane investor who paid me $450k for it, financed by a $360k interest-only ARM and a $90k HELOC, zero money down, THAT guy would be protected by Arizona's anti-deficiency statutes?!? So my mistake was... not being irresponsible enough? NOTE: This is not meant to belittle anyone who was duped into a bad loan that has now left them in deep crap; I have total sympathy for those folk. But it seems there are some serious gaps in the statutory protection here... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ It occurs to me that what I actually should have done was refinanced and taken out a single large $424k loan against my home when it was worth more than that, as opposed to taking out a HELOC. If I had simply refinanced into a larger loan, AZ court rulings would have protected me under the anti-deficiency laws. Maybe I'll put this discussion into a different thread... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ I suspect that what we'll end up doing is just walking, and seeing what happens, if our home value continues to drop for the next 6 months (which I suspect it will). If the 2nd waives the security, sues directly on the note, and obtains a deficiency judgment for $100k+, then we'll have to think about declaring Chapter 13 bankruptcy. In the meantime, anyone have advice on what sorts of semi-liquid assets might not show up when an asset search is done? What about US Savings Bonds? When I get a good job, move across the country, and stop making these two loan payments, I will want to start thinking about trying to sock away a little dough for an eventual house downpayment or college for the kid(s). I'm just thinking that if some bankruptcy judge looks a year from now and says "Mr. X has $4200 a month salary, pays $1000 rent, $1000 a month on student loans, has no car payments ... so he should be able to pay $2000 a month for 60 months for a Ch13 discharge plan"... in that case, I want to have socked away whatever I can in a fairly hidden manner, so that after 60 months I can have some hope of being able to send my kid(s) to college and/or save for a house. Make sense? |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ Whoa, Nellie! Don't you all just hate it when you are already depressed about something but then suddenly learn that you were not nearly depressed ENOUGH about it? I had been depressed by my home's estimated value of $287k (zillow.com). Well, I've just learned of another home in the neighborhood, a home that is a VERY good comp for mine, with about the same zillow estimate, that just sold for $239k. Looks like my estimates were about $45k too HIGH. I would be looking at a DECADE or more of paying $3500 a month to keep this house from afar, in addition to our rent someplace else, before it would be worth as much as we owe. HA. Fat chance. We'll be moving... somewhere... letting the house go... and practically DARING the 2nd lender to try to come after us. After I worked through the forms and tables on the US Bankruptcy Court site, it would appear they would get next to nothing in a Ch 13 plan anyway. The old principle of "can't get blood from a turnip". Oh well. This was never my plan, but I guess "it is what it is". Thank God I'm still in my early forties, and not sixty-five. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ It really wouldn't matter in the scheme of things whether the home is worth $287K or $239. The first will foreclose, wipe out the second, and you will be facing collection efforts by the second. Daniel |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ Well, Daniel, the only reason it might matter is because of the effects on my predictions of the future. If the home were worth $287k, I could look at it and think "Well, maybe if things turn around, I could rent the house to someone, and maybe in a couple years I could find some way to scrape a little money together and pay the difference to keep my good credit." If the home is worth $48k LESS than that (that's 17% less than $287k), then I'm not tempted to have such silly thoughts, and instead find myself thinking "Goodbye, house. Have a nice life." |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ If we only had 20/20 hindsight. What will be interesting is how much market values decline from this point forward. My sense is values will actually dip below the point of affordability (what had been the traditional income ratios that served as lender standards for qualifying borrowers when there was a more level headed approach to qualifying borrowers). This will be caused by tighter lender standards (including higher down payment requirements), and a continuing fear that if I buy today it will be worth less tomorrow. Once we do bottom I expect rather than values to start heading up, interest rates will increase. The result will be that there will be no appreciable increase in values for an extended period (until interest rates reach a reasonable level in terms of investor rate of return). My investment strategy is to wait until a point where the economy reaches a point of stability in terms of employment, take a close look at purchasing residential rentals that pencil out at a positive cash flow, and convert cash equivalent assets into leveraged real estate purchases and enjoy the tax benefits with a positive income flow. Walking away provides valuable lessons. Use the knowledge you gained and the next seven (7) years where investing in real estate probably doesn't make sense, to rebuild both your savings and creditworthiness. My sense is that you will look back on all of this from the vantage point of a person with substantial tangible assets, recognizing that you are better off for having the experience. Daniel |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ Hey Az, Boy is your story familiar! I also have a recourse HELOC at $75k, and due to loss of income through divorce, I am stuck. I have also been looking into ch13 and would like to see an answer to your question about what to do with your money once you stop paying your mortgage. I'm thinking I have about 6 months or so before filing, so once I get closer, I will stop paying my 1st if I find I will lose the house through bk anyway (by having to file ch7 because the FMV is not less the 1st mort. balance.) In my case, I am still paying my 1st mortgage, as that is FMV for a rental. So we will see what the 2nd does since I am alreay on month 4 of no payments. But I am working with them for a mod., but I don't think they will mod the loan enough to be beneficial. Should be an interesting year!! |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Out of Luck in AZ Quote:
Fortunately for me, except for the housing fiasco, and the depleted savings caused by grad school, I don't feel like I have a ton of lessons to learn here. I tend to buy practical cars, pay them off in way less than a year, and drive them for 7-10 years. I don't carry any credit card debt. I've managed to not raid my wounded retirement savings. Still, it will definitely be good for me to experience living on a "cash" basis, in a way I haven't been forced to since I was about 20 years old. I'll have a kid going to college in about six years, so my goal is to get the family in the best position possible to pay for college, get back to saving for retirement (which won't be until I'm 70 or so), be able to replace our current 2 cars in about 5 years, and someday buy another house. Lofty dreams, I suppose. | |
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