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This is a discussion on Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President within the Countrywide Home Loans - Tell Us Your Countrywide Story forums, part of the Stop Foreclosure and Tell Us Your Story category; Have you tried the traditional route in attempting to get a modification or refinance through the 800 # and gotten ...
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Have you tried the traditional route in attempting to get a modification or refinance through the 800 # and gotten the runaround? If you've answered "yes", then please read on. One approach you can take that will escalate your file is contacting the Office of the President (OOP) directly. 1. Send an email to barbara.j.desoer@bankofamerica.com Be concise and to the point regarding your request. Be sure to include your name, loan number(s), and a phone number where you can be reached. 2. Wait for the call from a customer advocate. You can expect to hear back from a customer advocate with the office of the chairman within 24 - 48 hours of sending your email. If you don't get a response, then send another email. When you do get the call, it will likely come up on your caller ID as "out of area", "no name", or "unavailable". If you cannot be reached, the customer advocate will leave you a message with his/her name and direct line. 3. You will be asked to fax over your information (even if you have sent in a million faxes already to another number). While you are waiting for a call from a customer advocate, start gathering your information. You will be asked to send in a hardship affidavit and possibly the IRS Form 4506-T (available here: https://www.hmpadmin.com/portal/prog..._borrower.html). You will also be asked for 2 most recent pay stubs (or other income documentation), last 2 months of bank statements, and a list of monthly expenses. One forum member (Garry), has recommended going to a local Bank of America Home Loans branch and have them fax over your request. They likely will assist you and you won't have to pay for it. I also recommend following up with your customer advocate to confirm your fax has been received. 4. Wait for the next call assigning you a negotiator. You can then expect another phone call from your customer advocate. He/she will assign your file to a negotiator and will be calling you with the name of your negotiator and contact information for that person. 5. Wait for the assigned negotiator to call. You will be instructed to wait for the negotiator to call you (he/she will need time to go over your file before talking to you). Your customer advocate will give you a timeframe (could be within 24 hours, could be within 1 week). Please note that some negotiators will be in direct contact with you over phone or email and others will tell you to communicate only with your customer advocate. Whatever they tell you to do is what you should do. 6. Check your account status online. You can log on to Countrywide Home Loans- Equity, Refinance, and Purchase to check this. Once you log in, you will see in the upper left corner of the screen, "Account Options" and under that, "My account summary". Click on "My home loans" to retrieve your account information. You will now find an expanded menu bar on the far left of your screen. Scroll down to "Financial hardship" and click on "Workout information". You will see two sections, "Documents Received" and "Current Workout Status". Under the workout status, you should see detailed information that your file is under review and a date when more information will be available (and instructions not to call before that date). I believe the intention here is to avoid excessive phone calls and give them adequate time to process your request. You will also see "Information as of" fill in the date, "Workout stage", and "Phase/Sub-Phase". You may not see anything under "Documents Received" yet. It does take some time as the information you faxed must be scanned and uploaded into the system. Do not panic...if you've gotten this far, the negotiator has your documents in hand! Here is what the screen will look like:
7. KEEP ON TOP OF THINGS! Continue to check your status for changes and don't hesitate to call if you do have questions. If you have general questions, post them on the forum. Someone may be able to assist you! The negotiators are obviously dealing with a large volume of requests. We don't want to bother them with general questions and impede anyone's progress on getting a modification by pestering them unnecessarily. Be sure to also post your story and update others on your progress. We can all benefit from other people's experiences! Good luck to all! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Thank you for so much useful information. I tried to access the site, but there is no record for my mortgage. Do you have to have a Countrywide mortgage? Mine is with BofA and I tried on their site, but did not see anything there either. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President I do have a Countrywide mortgage. I would email tech support to question why your account is not showing up online (there should be a link for that somewhere on the website). |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Riley, My loan was originally with BoA also. I cannot see any information about the modification status online. It appears that it is only customers with CW, now BoA that can see this information. I tried and tried and gave up on looking up the status. I just check it on the Naca website. I also call their number periodically to check. Ama, thanks for this detailed info. Cheers, |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Thanks for your help. I thought it was just Countrywide, but wasn't sure. When I called last week the phone rep told me that he could see that my loan was being considered for a modification. Of course, he probably says that to everyone who calls |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President When I go on line to check the status of my loan mod request with BOA/Countrywide...I always type in countrywide.com, not bankofamerica.com. It is much easier to get to where i need to be that way. Try it, it should work for you too. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Hi, I did exactly what this post recommended and the results were as described by Ama125. I just have some questions: 1. What do we do when we do talk to the negotiator? 2. An specific financials they are looking for? My situation is I make 6,250 gross after a 1,300 reduction in income. My mortgage is 2,2951 (first , second, tax and ins). Monthly expense is 1,242. I am not sure how they calculate under the MHA. Thanks |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Going this route (Office of the President) only works if you are NOT being represented by NACA. I have tried this and have been told twice that OOP cannot assist homeowners who are using NACA. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Thanks for posting that information. I have not tried NACA so I didn't even think to include that! |
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I pay $1200 in Child Support Can I get Bank OF America to reduce my Gross by that amount?? | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU This worked we were 9 days out from our sale date and even though I have a Countrywide loan they called me assigned a senior negotiator and we came up with an affordable modification in less then two weeks. This is after calling every 3-4 days for one year. Thank you so much for posting the information, this made our year. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President I did this about 3 or 4 weeks ago & it does work! I received a call a few days after sending Barbara DeSoer an e-mail saying that I had waited 2 months aftering submiting an application for a mod under the HAMP and hadn't heard a thing from anyone & hadn't even been assigned a negotiator. We were 2 mos. behind already & were afraid of losing our house & needed their help ASAP. Of course I had to send all updated docs to the advocacy person who called me but at least someone called! Right after that, we received a Fed/Ex delivery from BOA out of the clear blue, with a loan mod offer - of get this - adding our past due payments, interest & fees to the principal & INCREASING our payments by $128.42 a mo. No lowering of the interest rate or anything like that. Hmm...If I couldn't afford to make my payments before, which were lower, what makes you think I can make a higher payment?! Did no one read my hardship letter saying my income has been significantly reduced over the last year?!! Here's the really funny part - it came from the HOPE Team! Yeah, they HOPE I take their stupid offer! It took 2 days to get through to them to tell them thanks, but no thanks to their generous offer. When I asked why this & not the HAMP they said that many people were "happy" with these offers & just wanted to get caught up with payments. I then asked why would the bank knowing what our income & debts are now, approve us for a payment that would be 55% of our gross income? She then said that they could still be considering us for other mod options, but just wanted to get "something out to us" (yeah, right). This is what took 2 months? What a joke! I think they wait until you're desparately behind then offer you these crappy mods that only benefit the bank & the investor & think that you'll be forced into either accepting it or turning over your house to them. Also, then they can say to the gov't "We offered "x" many loan mods, but they weren't accepted or they defaulted later anyway. If they were accepted under these kind of terms, I can see why people wound up defaulting later on! It's almost a guarantee. Kind of like those payday loans, you get trapped into doing them over & over again because the fees are so high to pay them back. Then a couple of days later I got a call back from the customer advocacy person at the OOP & was assigned a senior negotiator (located in the US, not in India!) who said that he would have my file reassigned to him, then run the numbers & then submit the package to his supervisor to see if we qualify. He said it would take about 2-3 weeks for him to get back to me, which should be around the end of this week. Cross your fingers! This is the one time that I'm hoping that my house is worth less! |
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I know exactly what you are saying and glad to see you are not fooled by the carrot on the stick! I felt so relieved to have finally reached a person assigned to my file but was never certain as to what kind of offer he would draft up for me (it certainly was not HAMP from the terms and to no surprise was rejected by the investor). I have notified numerous agencies over BofA not reviewing cases for HAMP when that is clearly what the borrower has requested. If you have further complaints or specific reason to believe BofA is not complying with the HAMP guidelines, please email MHA_Compliance@mhacompliance.com. I only recently learned of this email address. It is the MHA Compliance department within Freddie Mac who was appointed by the Treasury to oversee compliance with the govt. program. On a sidenote, my account yesterday is now showing a modification. I have no idea what this one is or if this is a result of my emailing the many agencies that I have, but I'm hoping it's not some ridiculous piece of crap! I hope your new package is not another carrot! Good luck! | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Finally some action a day after emailing OOP Thank you so very much for posting the office of the president contact information. After months of making no progress with BoA, I sent an email to Barbara DeSoer yesterday. Then suddenly, today, I get a call on my cell phone from a new negotiator who called to let me know our case is being reopened. I'm pretty sure the contact came as a result of the email to Ms. DeSoer because for the first time, I included my cell phone number as a contact number along with the home and work numbers. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Escalating your Making Home Affordable Program request to the Office of the President Ama125, thank you so much for posting those instructions. I followed them and did receive a call shortly after contacting Barbara. However, after talking to my negotiator today, I did not get any great news. In a nutshell, here is my story: My husband and I have been in our house for 2 1/2 years. Our loan was through Countrywide, we have a first and second mortgage. Right after our one-year anniversary, we found out we were expecting our first child in February. We couldn't afford full-time daycare (it would have basically wiped out my income), so I found a well-paying part-time job to help make up the loss of income, and my husband got a second job as well. I was laid off from my part-time job in July and have been trying to get a modification ever since. I submitted paperwork through the Ohio Housing Finance Agency/ESOP, and they submitted that whole package to Bank of America. I have been asked to fax paystubs not once, not twice, but FOUR TIMES. My negotiator was borderline rude today (after it took her two days to get back to the voicemails I left for her) and told me, without even looking through my file very carefully, that she only saw two options and that neither of them would reduce our payment by very much. My income was $50,000, and we have an additional family member (who is now seven-months-old with a severe milk allergy), and they are saying that we can't get help??? I just spoke with the negotiator today, and I will see what she has to say...however, I am not very hopeful. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know, I would really appreciate it. (I have already emailed Barbara, but not after talking to the rude negotiator.) |
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