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This is a discussion on "making homes affordable modification" within the Countrywide Home Loans - Tell Us Your Countrywide Story forums, part of the Stop Foreclosure and Tell Us Your Story category; Hi everyone, this is my first time posting even though i have lurked around for months and months. After months ...
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | "making homes affordable modification" Hi everyone, this is my first time posting even though i have lurked around for months and months. After months of calling BOA formerly Countywide, i have finally gotten the FEDEX i have been waiting for. The making homes affordable folder saying that they will put me on a 3month trial period and then hopefully modify my loan. My only worry is, will they actually modify our loan, or come back and say, sorry we cant help you. Has anyone had either outcome? |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Hi welcome and thank you for joining the forum. Quote:
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" I recieved my documents for 3 mos. Home Affordable Modification trial period from BOA last week. I signed the documents, and returned them to BOA by Fed. Ex. So, I am currently in the trial period also. At first I was concerned, because my documents did not specifically state that it was the Home Affordable Modification. Nor did the documents state the specific interest rate I am getting to reach the new payment amount. However, my negotiator explained verbally that what I am getting IS a Home Affordable Modification, bringing me to the 31% of compensation mortgage payment. She said that BOA does not have documents specific to Home Affordable Modification yet, because the program is too new for them. She also said that she can not tell me the rate BOA used to calculate the new payment amount yet, because the rate may change if the Modification goes into official (5 year) status. Since my negotiator provided me this explanation clearly and on my recorded line, I felt relatively comfortable signing the documents and making the first payment. At this point, it is my understanding that - as long as I make my payments on time and my income situation does not change - the Modification can go to full effect. My negotiator said that after 3 mos., BOA will probably ask for all the financial information (I gave the earlier) again, and they will review the situation to make sure I can continue making the new payment. Now like you, I am hoping the Modification goes into full effect after the 3 mos. trial. |
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Any info. would be appreciated on what language was in your documents. | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Yes. The new modified payment definitely helps. Under Home Affordable the new monthly payment is calculated to be 31% of monthly income. This amounts to a $400 a month reduction for me. If the modification goes into full effect after the trial, it will be the miracle that keeps me in my home. The language in the document I signed is interesting. It does in fact refer to "forebarance" and "deferred payments." I was concerned about this, since I have not been late yet. So for me, at this time there is nothing to forbear. But, my negotiator told me (again on a recorded line) that this language is in the documents BOA is currently using for anyone getting the trial HA Modification. Honestly, after all the horror stories I've read about Countrywide/BOA going back on there word, I wouldn't feel comfortable with this verbal stuff if I didn't have the conversations on my recorded line at work. I also document everything - just in case I need to start writing to government agencies (again). I reallly think we all need to cover our selves in what ways we can. I'm not working with either NACA or an Attorney. I've been doing it all myself since I heard about Home Affordable in February. I can't tell you how many times Countrywide/BOA kept telling me I wasn't qualified -for different reasons (all incorrect). So, I kept on sending them pages from the Home Affordable site and copies of the letters I sent to government officials. I thought about trying NACA, but I checked out there site and saw that they wanted involvement of some sort (volunteer work, attend workshops, lobby, put a sign on your lawn...) all things that as a hard working single Mom, I simply don't have time to be involved in. I also read postings from people complaining about time and lack of response from NACA. I didn't want to take a chance, so I did it myself and I'm hopeful of the results. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Thanks for the reply. I hope the language in my letter is the same. My sale date is 7/3. Talked with BOA today...they usually won't talk to me because of NACA. But, they told me that a lwtter would be sent to me about the 3-6 month forbearance. And after that a mod would be considered. They said that the sale date could be cancelled 10 days prior. Anyway, I pray it all works out! We've had good credit until last year and lost 35% of our income. We are self employed. If we have to we will lay off another person to save our home and ourselves. But, we need them desperately to do the job. And I hate the thought of a single MOM being layed off. She's worked with us for 15 years and is agreat employee!! Keep in touch with me and your progress. This site is my life line and the smallest thing is encouraging. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" I also received my Fed Ex package for a Making Home Affordable loan modification from BofA/CW on the 2nd. For those that are curious as to what is contained within: Quote:
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" The next section in the packet: Quote:
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Next Page: (Note: There appears to be a couple of lines of text they missed when they printed this document. So, any parts that seem as incomplete answers are not on my part). Quote:
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" The Actual Agreement - Page 1: Quote:
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" AZGry When I wrote my letter to Barbara Desore, the Mortgage Loan President's office, they assigned a negotiater to my file. The first part of June I was told they didn't have the plan, that they were missing a page. All this after I was told I was pre-qualified for MHA. I've continued to see postings of people receiving it. Isn't it amazing the level of lies of BofA? So here is what I am wondering. Wouldn't it be cool to send them a copy of this letter to the office of the president along with my negotiator's name and what she told me? So if there is any way you can email me a copy of that thru the forum I would sure appreciate it. I don't know how to "capture" it just by the posting alone. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Wow! I got my document from BOA on June 27th. But what I got by FED. EX. is totally different from what AZfryffindor got from BOA. The only thing I have to convince me that mine is a Home Affordable trial is are negotiator's words (recorded). I'm trying not to worry, because the explanation the negotiator gave me sounded plausible and I have the recording dated June 29th. Also, I went to BOA seeking Home Affordable Modification. The above document sounds like BOA went to AZfryffindor (is that the case?). I started presenting my hardship request, financial information, and tax documentsmonths ago...getting all kinds of run around and incorrect information first from Countrywide and them from BOA. I'm happy to finally get the trial, but I wish my document looked more like your's, AZ. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Page 2 E. Under penalty of perjury, all documents and information I have provided to Servicer pursuant to this Plan, including the documents and information regarding my eligibility for the program, are true and correct; and F. If Servicer requires me to obtain credit counseling, I will do so. 2. The Trial Period Plan. On or before each of the following due dates, I will pay the Servicer the amount set forth below ("Trial Period Payment"), which includes payment for Escrow Items, including real estate taxes, insurance premiums and any other fees, if any, of U.S. $640.48. Trial Period Payment # Trial Period Payment Due Date On or Before 1 $640.48 7/31/2009 2 $640.48 9/1/2009 3 $640.48 10/1/2009 The Trial Period Payment is an estimate of the payment that will be required under the modified loan terms, which will be finalized in accordance with Section 3 below. During the period (the "Trial Period") commencing on the Trial Period Effective Date and ending on the earlier of: (i) the first day of the month following the month in which the last Trial Period Payment is due (the "Modification Effective Date") or (ii) termination of this Plan, I understand and acknowledge that: A. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE under this plan; B. Except as set forth in Section 2.C. below, the Servicer will suspend any scheduled foreclosure sale, provided I continue to meet the obligations under this Plan; but any pending foreclosure action will not be sismissed and may be immediatly resumed from the point at which it was suspended if thie Plan terminates, and no new notice of default, notice of intent to accelerate, notice of acceleration, or similar notice will be necessary to continue the foreclosure action, all rights to such notices being hereby waived to the extent permitted by applicable law: C. If my property is located in Georgia, Hawaii, Missouri, or Virginia and a foreclosure sale is currently scheduled, the foreclosure sale will not be suspended and the Servicer may foreclose if I have not made each and every Trial Period Payment that is due before the scheduled foreclosure sale. If a foreclosure sale occurs pursuant to this Section 2.C., this agreement shall be deemed terminated; D. The Servicer will hold the payments received during the Trial Period in a non-interest bearing account until they total an amount that is enough to pay my oldest delinquent monthly payment on my loan in full. If there is any remaining money after such payment is applied, such remaining funds will be held by the Servicer and not posted to my account until they total an amount that is enough to pay the next oldest delinquent monthly payment in full; E. When the Servicer accepts and posts a payment during the Trial Period it will be withoug prejudice to, and will not be deemed a waiver of, the acceleration of the loan or foreclosure action and related activities and shall not constitute a cure of my default under the Loan Documents unless such payments are sufficient to completely cure my entire default undre the Loan Documents; F. If prior to the Modification Effective Date, (i) the Servicer does not provide mea fully executed copy of this Plan snd the Modification Agreement; (ii) I have not made the Trial Period payments required under Section 2 of this Plan; or (iii) the Servicer determines that my representations in Section 1 are no longer true and correct, the Loan Documents will not be modified and this Plan will terminate. In this event, the Servicer will have all of the rights and remedies provided by the Loan Documents, and any payment I make under this Plan shall be applied to amounts I owe under the Loan Documents and shall not be refunded to me; and HOME AFFORDABLE MODIFICATION PROGRAM - LOAN WORKOUT PLAN - Single Family - Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac UNIFORM INSTRUMENT Form 3156 3/09 (page 2 of 3 pages) |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" Hello, I have visited these forums in the past and have always found them helpful. I hope I can get some information. A loan modification was completed for me back in January. I am making interest-only payments this year and the payment has been affordable. However, with the escrow account added, now including my property taxes, home insurance and shortage payment, my affordable payment is now borderline affordable. I have been current on my mortgage since my modification (6 months), but the escrow/shortage addition is making it difficult last month and this month and I am afraid I will fall behind. I've done the calculations and I'm currently at 36% of my salary gross with my payment. I don't need a drastic reduction to make things affordable. If it could drop to 31%, it would reduce my payment by about $350 (from $2770 to $2420) and I would be fine. A couple of questions: 1) If I'm current, will I qualify for the Make Home Affordable plan? I have read that BOA will only help if you fall behind. Is this true? 2) Since I'm currently paying interest-only and escrow, will I qualify for the Make Home Affordable plan? 3) How quickly does the program take effect after speaking with someone? I've read on here about a 3-month trial. Is the set-up for this quick? 4) What has also made this more difficult is a reduction in my salary. My company cut salaries across the board last month by 5-8% (5% for me) for the remainder of 2009. Will this help with obtaining a MHA reduction? Thanks in advance for any information that can be provided. |
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I'm still typing the remainder of my agreement so it's going to be a little while. Quote:
After not hearing anything back from anyone I started the NACA process but was told by the counselor that we wouldn't qualify until my husband acquired employment (he was on unemployment - I'm employed) so they did not submit anything to BofA/CW. Luckily, my husband was very fortunate and landed a really good job just about two weeks ago. Unfortunately, his hours are not full-time and vary greatly. Also, your modification docs may differ due to your Note being held by a different lender? If you look at the bottom of the pages for the actual Agreement, it states that this is the "HOME AFFORDABLE MODIFICATION PROGRAM - LOAN WORKOUT PLAN - Single Family - Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac UNIFORM INSTRUMENT. Form 3156 3/09 My note is held by Fannie Mae. | ||
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" The next document is the "Home Affordable Modification Program Hardship Affadavit". Quote:
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I have copies of our paycheck stubs from last week. In a separate envelope, I mailed off the reduced payment yesterday to the address indicated on the cover letter. All I am waiting on are the copies of our paycheck stubs from this week. I'll get mine on Friday and my husband will get his in the mail on Saturday. Then, everything gets Fed Ex'd back to Bank of America. Oh, here's the address it's going to in case anyone should need it: Quote:
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" I talked to BoA loss mitigation department, they told me that the HAM program is only from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac loans. And when I called their number, there is message saying that BoA will mail out information to eligible borrowers, I guess it means FM loan borrowers. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" The MHA REFINANCE program is for Fannie/Freddie loans. For the MHA MODIFICATION, your loan does not have to be owned by Fannie or Freddie. |
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Do you know who holds your note? Have you checked the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac websites to see if either holds your note? Fannie Mae Loan Look Up: Does Fannie Mae Own Your Mortgage? Loan Lookup Tool Freddie Mac Loan Look Up: https://ww3.freddiemac.com/corporate/ I didn't know that Fannie held mine until I checked. I followed it up with a call after one of the BofA idiots said that Fannie Mae did not hold my note (they do). | |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" You guys are going to love this. My doorbell just rang and it was Fed Ex. Guess what I received? ANOTHER MHA Mod package from BofA. A couple of things are different: The phone number to call is now: 1.877.221.0825 The trial period payment is now $635.50. And the address to Fed Ex it back to has changed to: BAC HOME LOANS SERVICING, LP ATTN: HOME RETENTION DIVISION 390 INTERLOCKEN CRESCENT SUITE 310 BROOMFIELD CO 80021 They have NO idea what they're doing do they? I guess I'll have to call (both numbers) |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: "making homes affordable modification" [quote=AzGryffindor;101359]The refinance portion is limited to Fannie/Freddie as far as I know but not the modification portion. Yes, that is what the guideline says; but I was told that BoA doesn't do HAM for non-FM loans. My investor is BoA, I guess this is not a good thing because they have more stricted guideline for modification; NACA submitted my application in early May, I am still waiting for response from BoA |
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