Old 10-22-2009, 08:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

I've read a few people (maybe 2 or 3 now) on here have been permanently modified under the HAMP modification where their interest rate is lowered to around 2% for the first 5 years, and then goes up 1% per year until the cap.

What I'm wondering is, were the TERMS of the modification 30 years or extended to 40 years?

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Old 10-22-2009, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

The permanent mod I got was for the the whatever period was left on the original loan, they had added the default amount to the principal.
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

Hi abcxyz,

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I've read a few people (maybe 2 or 3 now) on here have been permanently modified under the HAMP modification where their interest rate is lowered to around 2% for the first 5 years, and then goes up 1% per year until the cap.

What I'm wondering is, were the TERMS of the modification 30 years or extended to 40 years?
If I recall, I believe I saw at least one that got extended to forty years..
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

IF 2% doesn't get you down to 31% of income, than can extent maturity as far out as 40 yrs.
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

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The permanent mod I got was for the the whatever period was left on the original loan, they had added the default amount to the principal.
Hi M-nair,
i'm not sure I understood what you meant. I gather you were already in a 30 year fixed mortgage, and then just got it modified to get your payments lower and the period of payments just remained the same for you?

In my case, I just purchased 2.5 years ago, and I was in a 5/1 Interest Only ARM, so I haven't even reduced any principle yet. So they're putting me in a fixed P+i loan and I think the terms are 40 years...
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

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Yes, that was it is. It was 30 years fixed and paid about a 2 years and so I just owe what ever that leftover period was. I think it all depends on your credit score and the underwriting rules.
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

Mine was for 30 years. 2% first 5 years then 1% bump 6-7-8th years to a maximum of 5% rest of the loan. I was very happy and relieved! It took a long time and many phone calls but we were completely satisfied with the result! Our rate had been 7 1/4%
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

Another question for you guys and informational for others that may be in the process:

HOW long did it take from the time you started (i.e., with your first phone call) til you were finalized (i.e., sent the final paperwork in signed and notarized etc)?
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

abcxyz, it took me from the first of February to the 25th of September to go through the whole process. Countless phone calls to follow-up, several different reps, finally a loss mitigation specialist, Donna West that put me over the goal line. Don't give up!
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

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Didn't the government HAMP program come out on March 4th though? So I presume you were trying a different modification option offered through citi prior to the government one commencing March 4th.

I started some bogus offering that citi had last November called CHAP (Citi Homeowners Assistance Program), nothing materialized after countless phone calls and then this HAMP thing came out which I then pursued started on 6/1/09.
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

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I've read a few people (maybe 2 or 3 now) on here have been permanently modified under the HAMP modification where their interest rate is lowered to around 2% for the first 5 years, and then goes up 1% per year until the cap.

What I'm wondering is, were the TERMS of the modification 30 years or extended to 40 years?

Thanks.
I received a traditional mod from CITI, confirmed today. They extended the terms to 40 years.
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Yes, that was it is. It was 30 years fixed and paid about a 2 years and so I just owe what ever that leftover period was. I think it all depends on your credit score and the underwriting rules.
Credit score is only a factor in the NPV-test - it doesn't determine the loan terms like extension or interest-rate under HAMP - that's determined by the "waterfall".
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

My current mod looks like a HAMP but my negotiator has not called me back to confirm that fact yet. Mine was adjusted to 3% and the back payments that were interest only anyway were put in the differed interest column on the loan and the term was extended by 2 years.
The time line on mine with US Bank was 5 weeks from when I sent my info in to when I received a packet.
Now if I can just get BofA on my HELOC to get on board, or off (the tittle) would be better.
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Re: Question for those that have gotten the permanent modificaiton...

My mod was extended back to the 30 year term. I have had our mortgage with Citi for about 8-9 years. As I had mentioned before, mod was 2% first 5 years, escalating 6th-7th-8th year 1% increase and then the max at 5% for the duration. I was very happy with the way things worked out it just takes time and patience. The only problems I see are, the rules keep changing ona pretty fluid basis. That is why I think it is imperative you keep in contact with your rep and continue to ask if there are any better programs announced that you might qualify for.
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