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This is a discussion on Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP within the Chase Mortgage - Tell Us Your Chase Story forums, part of the Stop Foreclosure and Tell Us Your Story category; Hi all. Wow all this info is making my head spin! We are coming up on 4 months delinquent and ...
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Hi all. Wow all this info is making my head spin! We are coming up on 4 months delinquent and scared. To stop foreclosure, Chase just suspended our payments for 3 months in the hope that Ginnie Mae will have the FHA HAMP program in place by then. I was told by a rep @ Ginnie Mae that they are hoping to have the software installed to process FHA HAMP modifications in 3 weeks (likely story). Is anyone else in the same boat? Has anyone had any success with FHA HAMP through Ginnie Mae? Thanks and good luck! |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Hello and welcome to the community! I know, all this info can look daunting. Ginnie Mae backed loans can be tough because mortgage servicers want to make sure they abide by their guidelines. Here are some other members that have Ginnie Mae loans that you can research and join in the discussions. Update Success: CitiMortgage Loan Mod questions FHA/Ginnie Mae-Need Help Citi FHA (Ginnie Mae) loan mod information ? Here's the guidelines: http://www.ginniemae.gov/media/summary.pdf With the information now available, servicers can begin immediately to modify eligible mortgages under the Modification program so that at‐risk borrowers can better afford their payments. The detailed guidelines (separate document) provide information on the following: Eligibility and Verification • Loans originated on or before January 1, 2009. • First‐lien loans on owner‐occupied properties with unpaid principal balance up to $729,750. Higher limits allowed for owner‐occupied properties with 2‐4 units. • All borrowers must fully document income, including signed IRS 4506‐T, two most recent pay stubs, and most recent tax return, and must sign an affidavit of financial hardship. • Property owner occupancy status will be verified through borrower credit report and other documentation; no investor‐owned, vacant, or condemned properties. • Incentives to lenders and servicers to modify at risk borrowers who have not yet missed payments when the servicer determines that the borrower is at imminent risk of default. • Modifications can start from now until December 31, 2012; loans can be modified only once under the program. Loan Modification Terms and Procedures • Participating servicers are required to service all eligible loans under the rules of the program unless explicitly prohibited by contract; servicers are required to use reasonable efforts to obtain waivers of limits on participation. • Participating loan servicers will be required to use a net present value (NPV) test on each loan that is at risk of imminent default or at least 60 days delinquent. The NPV test will compare the net present value of cash flows with modification and without modification. If the test is positive – meaning that the net present value of expected cash flow is greater in the modification scenario – the servicer must modify absent fraud or a contract prohibition. • Parameters of the NPV test are spelled out in the guidelines, including acceptable discount rates, property valuation methodologies, home price appreciation assumptions, foreclosure costs and timelines, and borrower cure and redefault rate assumptions. • Servicers will follow a specified sequence of steps in order to reduce the monthly payment to no more than 31% of gross monthly income (DTI). • The modification sequence requires first reducing the interest rate (subject to a rate floor of 2%), then if necessary extending the term or amortization of the loan up to a maximum of 40 years, and then if necessary forbearing principal. Principal forgiveness or a Hope for Homeowners refinancing are acceptable alternatives. • The monthly payment includes principal, interest, taxes, insurance, flood insurance, homeowner’s association and/or condominium fees. Monthly income includes wages, salary, overtime, fees, commissions, tips, social security, pensions, and all other income. • Servicers must enter into the program agreements with Treasury's financial agent on or before December 31, 2009. Payments to Servicers, Lenders, and Responsible Borrowers: • The program will share with the lender/investor the cost of reductions in monthly payments from 38% DTI to 31% DTI. • Servicers that modify loans according to the guidelines will receive an up‐front fee of $1,000 for each modification, plus “pay for success” fees on still‐performing loans of $1,000 per year. • Homeowners who make their payments on time are eligible for up to $1,000 of principal reduction payments each year for up to five years. • The program will provide one‐time bonus incentive payments of $1,500 to lender/investors and $500 to servicers for modifications made while a borrower is still current on mortgage payments. • The program will include incentives for extinguishing second liens on loans modified under this program. • No payments will be made under the program to the lender/investor, servicer, or borrower unless and until the servicer has first entered into the program agreements with Treasury’s financial agent. • Similar incentives will be paid for Hope for Homeowner refinances. Transparency and Accountability • Measures to prevent and detect fraud, such as documentation and audit requirements, will be central to the program. • Servicers will be required to collect, maintain and transmit records for verification and compliance review, including borrower eligibility, underwriting, incentive payments, property verification, and other documentation. • Freddie Mac will audit compliance. I hope that helps a bit!
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP "I was told by a rep @ Ginnie Mae that they are hoping to have the software installed to process FHA HAMP modifications in 3 weeks" Boy I hope this is true! Good luck to you! I was "DENIED BY THE INVESTOR" (Ginnie Mae) on Aug. 11. I guess my next step should be to resend? Thanks! Bryan |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP I been trying since MAY and Ginnie is the hold up so my Citi say's just another excuse, but go for it, this is just a lottery they choose we loose
__________________ Central PA, USA Waiting NACA Approval With Citi ON FHA MORTGAGE 05/18/2009 Ginnie Mae investor Is NACA Becomming a SCAM..? |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Hi Moe or Others, How do I find out my investor?? I have a FHA loan, but at this point I am still just waiting for a neg to call me. Been getting run around since May, but after emailing Barbara two weeks ago was finally called back and told a neg would be giving me a call. Also got a email from Dan which I am sure he probably didnt send himself that also said someone would give me a call. To date no call yet just still waiting who knows what will be said this time. Since May you qualify, you dont qualify, denied, under review so who knows... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP I also have an FHA/ Ginnie Mae loan. I haven't had any success getting a loan mod done. Im not aware of anybody getting a loan mod done with an FHA loan. Chase was supposed to have the FHA loan program up and running Aug 15 but here almost two months later still nothing. I seen only 45,000 loans out of 850,000 FHA loans behind will qualify for this new program. What happens to the other 800,000 loans? The only good thing about an FHA loan is that they don't want to foreclose but that is the only thing so far that is positive IMO. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Shay01, they will probaly tell you that your investor is Ginnie Mae. I don't know of anybody else who has an FHA loan being told any one else. These FHA loan mods are very frustrating! |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP I know dtap this is so frustrating I dont know if they will ever help us. I have been trying since June. I was told i qualify, i dont, denied, under review over and over again. After emailing OOP I was called 2 weeks ago and told that I would be assigned a neg. I have not heard anything yet so I guess I will see and keep playing the waiting game... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Moe- are these the guidelines specifically for Ginnie Mae for the FHA-MHA? I was told yesterday that they can't give me 40 years on my loan. The nego I talked to at BofA told me they only extend it to 30 years. I hope she's wrong because if that's the case, we QUALIFY!!! They are using what we owe on the credit report and that's the only thing stopping us, making our back end ratio 77.4% even though we're not paying. I have to look more into this. "The modification sequence requires first reducing the interest rate (subject to a rate floor of 2%), then if necessary extending the term or amortization of the loan up to a maximum of 40 years, and then if necessary forbearing principal. Principal forgiveness or a Hope for" |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP There are very few who have received FHA modifications so far. I have to send my NACA budget, hardship, etc. to a rep in the executive response unit at CitiMortgage. I wonder how many times though I should attempt to fax it.
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP I also have a FHA HUD Ginnie Mae loan. I actually emailed the HUD department and got assigned a FHA case number and I am supposed to call and talk to one of their people about my loan. So I may do that next my forbearance ended and I have no idea what to do now since Chase will not return calls or emails... |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Try calling 877 419 6493, that's the number I was given to reach Ginnie Mae. I also used a HUD approved Neighborhood Housing Service, but the bank seems to like to call me directly as well as talking with my negotiator |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP The guidelines I posted above are for all Ginnie Mae backed mortgages.
Email hsg-lossmit@hud.gov Department of Housing and Urban Development National Servicing Center 301 NW 6th Street, Suite 200 Oklahoma City, OK 73102
__________________ Moe Bedard Founder LoanSafe.org "America's #1 Home Loan Forum" LoanWorkout.org "America's # Loan Modification Blog" Get My FREE Loan Modification E-Book | Please donate to LoanSafe.org | Loan Modification Training For Attorneys | Rate Your Mortgage ServicerThe comments by me and the materials available at this web site are for informational purposes only and not for the purpose of providing legal advice. Most of the information you find here is easily available on the internet. You should contact your attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular issue or problem. The opinions expressed at or through this site are the opinions of the individual author and may not reflect the opinions of the firm or any individual attorney. Please Read our Privacy Policy and Legal Disclaimer Here. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP I even went through FHA councle sessions and each time told they cannot help me at all because I wqas not behind on my payments
__________________ Central PA, USA Waiting NACA Approval With Citi ON FHA MORTGAGE 05/18/2009 Ginnie Mae investor Is NACA Becomming a SCAM..? |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Called again Friday, and at first someone told me I would not qualify because I have an FHA loan, once I asked about the FHA Hamp that went into effect Aug 15, I was then told againn, that they are waiting on having the guidelines distributed throughout the company to begin approving mods this way. I was also told I was "Lucky" to get a 3 months suspension of payments. I will keep calling and posting if I get any more info. |
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | Re: Ginnie Mae-FHA-HAMP Posting a quick update, HUD counselor advised us to set up special forbearance to avoud foreclosure while the FHA HAMP program was set up at Chase. I called today and now we will have to completely reapply when the forbearance agreement is over in December. Grrr. They did tell us that Chase has been processing FHA HAMP modifications for 2 weks now, I wish I had not taken the forbearance and just stuck it out. But I will try again in December. |
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