Old 03-25-2009, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

HOPE prevents 1 foreclosure
HOPE for Homeowners has been a failure. But Congress thinks some tweaks will revive it.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- If HOPE for Homeowners, the foreclosure-prevention plan passed last summer, was a soft drink, it would be New Coke. If it was an automobile, it would be an Edsel. A movie? Howard the Duck.

In the five months since it has been in effect, HOPE has helped exactly one homeowner to avoid foreclosure. This despite Congress having made $300 billion available to back these loans and estimating that the program would benefit as many as 400,000 families.

"As it stands now, we've only gotten 752 applications," said Federal Housing Authority spokesman Brian Sullivan. "And only insured one loan. Needless to say, the program isn't working terribly well."

Rep. Michael Castle (R - Del.), who sits on the House Financial Services Committee, agreed, calling HOPE "one of the most failed programs we've had in a long time."

Nonetheless, the House of Representatives recently approved an updated version of HOPE as part of the bankruptcy-reform bill that is a keystone to President Obama's Homeowner Affordability and Stabilization Plan. But it was no overhaul to the program; the changes are very subtle.

Castle is concerned that the new program will also be a waste of time and money. But Sen. Chris Dodd (D - Conn.), one of the chief architects of the earlier version of HOPE, supports keeping it in the bankruptcy bill, according to a source close to the negotiations. He hopes the changes will help convince more servicers to use the program.

The Senate is expected to vote on the bill in the next few weeks.
Dashed expectations

The original program called for lenders to voluntarily refinance delinquent mortgages by reducing the principal balance on loans to 90% of a home's current market value. The new 30-year, fixed-rate loans would then be backed by the FHA. Under the new plan, lenders would only have to write it down to 93%.

Borrowers who owed $220,000 on a house valued at $200,000, for example, would need their mortgage balances reduced to $180,000 to qualify for an original HOPE for Homeowners refi. That's a $40,000 write-off. Under the new plan, lenders would have to forgive $34,000.

Lenders simply won't do that very often. They prefer to use term extensions or interest rate reductions to help make mortgage payments affordable for at-risk homeowners. As a result, most of the big lenders refused to participate in the program, which was strictly voluntary though heavily encouraged by the Bush and Obama administrations.

"Writing down principal is the last thing you want to do because you have to realize the loss immediately," said Paul Leonard, a spokesman for the Housing Policy Council, a coalition of mortgage lenders.
No volunteers

The program has also failed, Leonard added, because of the conditions and limits the program imposed. Borrowers, for example, had to agree to pay the government 50% of any future profits they made from selling the property. Under the new version of HOPE, borrowers would no longer have to split any earnings with Uncle Sam.

Other changes include incentive payments to servicers of $1,000 to induce them to participate.

The Congressional Budget Office now projects that HOPE for Homeowners could help just 25,000 mortgage borrowers over the next 10 years at a cost of $675 million.

Despite those modest numbers, Leonard said that the members of Housing Policy Council want to keep HOPE for Homeowners on the table even though the administration's Homeowner Affordability and Stabilization Plan does much more than HOPE.

Besides reducing mortgage payments through interest rate reductions or term extensions, HASP provides for lowering mortgage principals - the only thing that HOPE offers.

Still, the tool would be in the box even if "the administration's plan would be the first thing [lenders] look at," Leonard said. To top of page
First Published: March 25, 2009: 11:41 AM ET


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Re: HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

Hey wait a second! 90% to 93%??? Hey, you're going the wrong way senator Doooodd! (rhymes with Todd. said like Lisa Loopner/Gilda Radner) Maybe we need to give you a noogie senator Doooodd. Would that help?

7% reduction huh? When peoples' homes have been cut in half. Let me know when Washington DC wants to get serious about helping Americans Mr. Dooodd. Till then, get ready for your noogie senator. And maybe a wedgie too.
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Re: HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

Its 90 or 93% of current market value, not the price paid for the house. I think his plan is one of the best out there, but it is missing any incentive for the banks to participate.

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Re: HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

1 helped vs. 400,000 originally projected to be helped. Well that's close!!!

I'm no expert but I could have told the knuckleheads in D.C. that lenders were not going to voluntarily reduce principals. Like Garyys wrote: the lenders need an incentive to write down the PBs.
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Wow!!! As I mentioned for the last two years folks, we on Main Street are on our own....
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Re: HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

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We sure are on our own. Is there any track record yet with respect to NACA and various investors? Once NACA starts negotiations are they able to find out who the investors are? Is there any way a class action law suit could be brought to find out investors?
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sThat is part of the whole scam, no one can find the actual investors because these mortgage can be owned by several investors spread around the world. AND the investors do not even know what they own.

The investment firm that sold these MBS'S are the ones responsible to manage these pooling and servicing agreements (PSA's) for the investors. If you find the PSA that your mortgage is in, then you can locate the investment firm that is supposed to be managing it.

And when you do, what can you do? It's a specifically designed cluster F to never find the true owner of the mortgage......
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Re: HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

So why isn't there a class action suit against the rating companies that started this mess. Maybe the government can sue them and collect from their insurance and give it to us victims.
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Ostbob,

rating companies? Credit rating? What do you mean?

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Companies that want to sell Mortgage Backed Securties have to get them rated. Rating companies like Moodys etc will rate them AAA or less. This deteremines their value. These rating companies acted like some appraisers in that they knew they had to give them a higher rating if they wanted future business from them. Then Wall street bankers bought these "D" rated MBS thinking they were AAA rated. When this was discovered the market came to a stop. THe Joint economic committee grilled the presidents of three of the major rating companies and put the blame squarely on them for causing the lack of confidence in our finacial markets.
Subprime loans are ok, as long as you know that that's what your buying but when you buy AAA MBS and later find out that there are a lot of Subprime stuff in there your screwed.
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I would assume he means the agencies responsible for rating the level of risk for a Collateral Debt Obligation. These are the financial instruments used by the financial industry to bundle and sell mortgages.
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I agree with you about the Mortgage Backed Securities. But I think it is a totally separate topic, sounds like a topic for a new or different thread?

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Re: HOPE prevents a SINGLE foreclosure - CNN

I think you are right, so what thread should I use? Would sure like to get something started about suing these rating companies.
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I don't know if there is already one going about the rating companies, its a fascinating topic. Maybe just a new thread in this area (unite and fight back).

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