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Old 08-18-2009, 12:41 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Democracy NOT! Democra-lobby YES !

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Originally Posted by so-cal-gal View Post
If you think for one second that the plan being put forth will resemble CHAMPUS let alone the version of military medical care you grew up with, you will be sadly disappointed.

Too bad we can not all have coverage like you enjoyed or, better yet, the same benefits that congress and the president enjoys.

Instead you are headed for MANAGED CARE that has more red tape than the current breauacracy of the Health Maintenance Organizations that exist now.[/QUOTE]

That’s because Obama couldn’t even approach the single payer system he is really for, as Americans for the most part, are happy to vote against their own self-interests before they even know what they’re voting for or against. I think that is insulting to most people. Just because they don't agree with the proposed healthcare reform does not mean they are uninformed. They just believe any propaganda thrown at them. What propaganda are you talking about? The socialists are coming … the socialists are coming … I agree with you there. The socialists are here. And we must defeat them.Any truly intelligent, cost effective or good policy for average Americans that has the potential to affect corp. America’s bottom line gets killed as “socialism” before it even takes off. All you have to say to scare the average, uninformed American is “socialism” and they wet their pants with fear. The proposed plan is no change, thanks to the lobbyists having bought everyone off and Americans enjoying the freedom to vote against their own interests, once again. Again, that is offensive. Most Americans are not uniformed. They vote for their best interests. I do agree that there should be no lobbyists. It’s a badly mangled proposed plan that will keep the health insurance magnates very wealthy and continue to provide little benefit to uninsured Americans. If Americans can’t rally behind good healthcare for all, what does this country stand for, anymore? Any policy that takes the profit motive out of human health is a good thing, to me. That is a socialist idea. You don't believe in free enterprise and capitalism? You are welcome to share your money with the guy that doesn't feel the need to work. For god’s sake, there’s a black market for human organs in this country and around the world. There is a black market for just about everything. Organs are no different. If I was in fantastic health and had an organ that I could do without and could sell it you better believe I would do it. You can’t even rest in peace when you’re dead! The profiteers are still trying to make a buck off you when you’re cold and six feet under (I loved that show!). That’s how our current healthcare system is run, too. Oh well. If Americans want the freedom to keep paying high health insurance premiums and get little or nothing in return, I don't understand what you are saying. Little or nothing in return? I just got a total knee replacement. I would call that a good return for my money. let em. It’s a “free” country, after all. Or, is it?
I do believe that heathcare does need to be reformed, but Obamas plan is not the way to go. For one thing it would not go according to their plan. Medicare is a good example of why government should not be involved. Basically it is a good program, but it has been raided. Therefore, items have been cut/discontinued due to not enough money. If this heathcare plan goes through other government programs will suffer even more.
The government cannot control it's own spending.
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